Talk:The Mall, London/Archive 1

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Archive 1

ceremonial

Unsure about "ceremonial." Is that proper as opposed to ceremonies? Left as found. –Floorsheim 08:45, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

whilst

using "whilst" twice in a row doesn't work. too repetitive. will revert unless you object. –Floorsheim 00:06, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Hmm. I rather thought that it added a nice touch of cadence, but never mind :-) How's it now?

James F. (talk) 04:12, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

looks good –Floorsheim 04:32, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

how long?

this should perhaps include information on how long the mall is. –hosbn

Google Maps measures 1km (0.6 mi) from Buck House to the Arch. --Oscar Bravo (talk) 12:38, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

If this is so (and I cannot deny it, but I suggest that the more definitive source of this type of information is perhaps for a number of reasons the maps of the Ordnance Survey) it (the exact length in terms of the metric system) has to be, I suggest, either a pure coincidence or a fact which relates to other significant lengths within the area, it being the case that at this time (the period of the creation of this entire architectural layout in relation to the reign of Queen Victoria and in her memory) what was in question at governmental level (and also internationally) was still the so-called Battle of the Scales (now no longer, it seems, either remembered or even perhaps understood in political terms, but with which, at the time, the Queen was directly involved, and this evidently from the time of her access to the monarchy). Peter Judge — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.151.133 (talk) 13:15, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

The Mall as a runway

I have added a citation request to "Also, it is an urban myth that in the event of an emergency or catastrophic event that might endanger the monarch and senior members of the government, the Mall can quickly be converted into a make-shift runway". We need a reference for the myth, and also a reference for it being untrue. --80.176.142.11 (talk) 19:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

It is not a myth that the Mall could be used as a runway. Obviously, since it is long, flat and solid, it could, with suitable co-operation from the traffic police, be used to land an aircraft. The question is whether it was designed with this intention, or if there exists or existed any plan to use it as such in the event of an emergency. In the "early 20th century", when the Mall was constructed, aircraft were not in widespread use and it is unlikely that it was designed with this in mind. In the present day, any evacuation of Her Majesty would be effected using helicopters and so would not require it. However, I would be surprised if, during the dark days of 1940, no-one ever paced out the width across the Mall and compared it to the wingspan of a Lancaster. --Oscar Bravo (talk) 12:28, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

So glad I now understand, having read this section on the Talk Page, what was in fact meant by the term 'make-shift runway' and the purpose of its creation! I should indeed have completely and immediately understood this before, and I shall now (22 February 2012) immediately remove my completely irrelevant attempt to justify (in response to 'Citation Needed', and within the article itself) what I though was in fact meant (namely that the Mall would cease altogether for political reasons to be used as a section within the original Queen Victoria memorial architecture as created at the commencement of the 20th Cent.). Again, thanks for enlightening me, and my apologies to any possible readers within one day when my text was on the article who have had to consider what on earth might have been the message that I intended to convey (does this sort of thing happen often on Wikipedia?). In the meantime, I do agree that a citation is indeed certainly needed, since in point of fact the true motive might be unclear, and what I have suggested in the terms of the possible relevance of the current (2012) disregard of war memorials also connected with the Victorian monarchy period and clearly contrary to law, which I demonstrated within the article in the section now removed, might be relevant, for politics is always complicated and difficult to understand so far as I am concerned! PS By a rather perhaps strange coincidence I have found that the possible difficulties of democracy (presumably whether combined with a monarchy as in the UK or not) are currently (on the same date as the text above) underlined on a completely extraordinary article intended to cover the actual state of democracy at a world level, see http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/02/201222086791170.html and if interested within Wikipedia itself q.v. also Al Jazeera on this particular website (I repeat that I can give examples of my own experience within the United Kingdom but I understand that the legal issues involved in discussions of this sort are complicated and it would perhaps be better not to go further, but simply to raise the possibility? What is 'government' in the true sense, if there is one?). Peter Judge — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.185.45 (talk) 11:37, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Not sure about the pronunciation. While Pall Mall, London definitely rhymes with "Pal", this relates to a historical connection to Paille-maille; in my experience, the majority of English folk pronounce The Mall to rhyme with "Paul." Davidtmoore (talk) 16:32, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

The pronunciation is totally WRONG - someone has written what I consider the American pronunciation of a shopping mall. The Mall rhymes with 'Pal'! I have never heard anybody pronounce it -including the BBC - rhyming with 'Paul' and I'm from the south of England! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.181.36 (talk) 13:45, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

This comment was put into the article but it should be in here instead

the red colour of the mall and other areas around buckingham palace is not only due to the red dye process already mentioned. surfacing work is also carried out using red whinstone gravel or crushed rock from harden quarry near biddlestone in northumberland. for verification either check with the quarry or london city council. cheers alex

-moved by PatrickDunfordNZ (talk) 11:26, 30 April 2011 (UTC)-

What was this the site of?

What was here before it was built? An ordinary road, Parkland? Theofficeprankster (talk) 19:39, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

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