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Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 23:07, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Hello! I'll be taking a look at this article for the January 2022 GAN backlog drive. If you haven't already signed up, please feel free to join in! Although QPQ is not required, if you're feeling generous, I also have a list of GA nominations of my own right here.

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lede

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Background

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  • "On October 2011" → "In October 2011" or add the exact date  Done
  • "the Madonna fansite DrownedMadonna"
It's redundant to say it's a Madonna fansite when the title clearly says it
You do need to introduce the name of the artist with an appropriate link, though.
 Done
  • "confirmed fake" → "confirmed to be fabricated"  Done
  • No comma after "along with her choreographers"  Done
  • "30%" → "30 percent" per MOS:PERCENT  Done

Development

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Conception and rehearsals

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  • This time was referred to by Fogel "This time" reads as vague  Done
  • Similarly, "it" in it would be divided into four different thematic acts – the whole tour, with different legs showing each of these themes, or would all four be present in each individual performance?
The concert was divided into four thematic acts.
  • "Slackliner Andy Lewis was asked by Madonna" → "Madonna asked Slackliner Andy Lewis" for active voice  Done
  • "the official one" → "the official list"  Done
  • Comma after "Córdoba, Argentina" per MOS:GEOCOMMA  Done

Stage and costume design

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  • Don't love the use of "innovative" in quotes per MOS:QUOTEPOV  Done
  • Use the conversion template for the various measurements in this section like "8ft"
  • "could still be able" → "would still be able"  Done
  • "eight costumes changes" → "eight costume changes"  Done

Multimedia and video

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  • Not sure why years are in parentheses after only some of the songs, and they shouldn't be used anyway, since it describes her performing them live, not the recording  Done
  • Missing quotation mark in "Gang Bang"  Done
  • "vice" in "vice presidential" should be lowercase  Done
  • Unclear how the one visual is a "deliberate shot" at Lady Gaga  Done

Concert synopsis

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  • Jumbled present/past tense throughout section  Done
  • "cabaret" should be lowercase  Done

Critical reception

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Middle East and Europe

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  • "On his review of opening night" → "In his review of the opening night performance"  Done
  • Comma after "praised the "visually dazzling" concert"  Done
  • You only need to include surnames after the name is first introduced  Done
  • Watch for MOS:DUPLINKs in this section, particularly for song titles that were linked above  Done

America

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  • What is "it" in "deemed it ambitious", the whole tour or the individual performance?  Done
  • "also calling out" → "also critiquing"  Done

Commercial reception

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  • More precise measurement for "right after" – same night? Within hours? Minutes? After her Super Bowl performance or after the whole event?
That's how the source mentions it: Madonna's going on the road, and those tickets will go on sale right after the Super Bowl I have modified it; let me know if that works
  • "with some premium packages cost" → "while some premium packages cost" OR "with some premium packages costing"  Done
  • "A.M."→ "a.m." per MOS:TIME, and include a time zone
What do you mean time zone?
Since Abu Dhabi is in UTC +04:00, after "7 a.m.", you should write "(GST)"  Done
  • I think Yankee Stadium should be linked upon its first mention in the reception, not down here  Done

Controversies

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Political

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  • Per MOS:DASH, en dashes are used with spaces on either side, em dashes have no spaces; either is acceptable, as long as they are used consistently
They're only used on ask Madame Madonna — and everyone who organized her international show —, because that is how the source quotes it; let me know if I need to change it.
  • Muslim should be capitalized; if the quote had it lowercase, then "[sic]" should be added  Done
  • "On Louisiana," → "In Louisiana", and delink the state name per MOS:OVERLINK  Done
  • "shot by members of the Taliban"  Done

Fire arms and nudity

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  • "firearms" is generally one word  Done
  • "that kept her" → "that prevented her"  Done
  • "if she did" what, exactly? (I know the answer is use simulated weaponry, but the sentence construction is unclear)  Done
  • "didn't" → "did not" per MOS:N'T  Done
  • "commented about the controversy" → "commented on the controversy"  Done

Paris' Olympia concert

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  • "Paris'" → "Paris's" throughout, per MOS:'S  Done
  • "July 18 and, three days later," → "July 18, and three days later"  Done
  • Replace dashes with commas around many of whom had allegedly paid more than €280 or had slept on the street overnight to be able to purchase tickets  Done
  • "that it only" → "that the set only"  Done
  • "had more than" → "had received more than"  Done

Pussy Riot and LGBT rights in Russia

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  • "were found guilty" please list the specific charges  Done
  • "Russian Government" → "Russian government"  Done

Broadcasts and recording

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  • "random people" is part of Eichner's schtick, but not very encyclopedic terminology  Done
  • "United States' relations" → "United States's relations" per MOS:'S  Done
  • "talkshow" → "talk show"  Done
  • "got to meet" → "had the opportunity to meet"  Done
  • En dash instead of hyphen in "November 19-20"  Done
  • Comma after "September 10, 2013" per MOS:DATECOMMA  Done

Set list

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  • Add period after the sentence explaining from where the adaptation was derived and after all of the notes, as they are all full sentences  Done

Shows

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  • Good

Cancelled dates

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  • Good

Notes

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  • This should be a level three subhead falling under the greater umbrella of the "shows" header, as all of the notes relate to that section of the article, if that makes sense  Done

Personnel

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  • Just as above, add period after "Adapted from The MDNA Tour program"  Done

References

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  • No obvious formatting problems
  • "Unreliable" sources like the New York Post are used for basic factual information, not controversial political reporting

General comments

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  • Images look good, are properly licensed and relevant
  • No stability concerns in the revision history
  • Copyvio score is artificially inflated by proper nouns and direct quotes, but the article passes the eye test

I am experiencing some migraines and will continue to chip away at this, but I cannot look at screens for extended periods of time. — GhostRiver 18:12, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That sucks :/ I suffer from benign paroxysmal positional vertigo so I'm also prone to migraines. Hope you feel better and look forward to the rest of your comments.--Christian (talk) 18:31, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your patience. I had a good head day and was able to finish my comments. Putting on hold for now. — GhostRiver 17:14, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @GhostRiver:! I have corrected all the points you wrote down; let me know if that's OK. Hope you're feeling better! --Christian (talk) 19:48, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
All of my comments have been sufficiently addressed, happy to pass. Excellent work on such a long article! — GhostRiver 16:57, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]