Talk:The Iron Bridge/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 13:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Comments

• Lead is a bit short for an article of this length. Aim to cover the pertinent points from each section in there.
  • Expanded lead - a bit more background material, and expanded the background such as the area being rich in mineral deposits.
• Refs not needed in the lead assuming that the material is mentioned in the main body and referenced there (which it should be!)
  • Fixed
• "Ironbridge Gorge" is overlinked in the lead.
  • Fixed
• "first major bridge" what is the definition of "major" here?
  • This is a bit tricky - a lot of sources say "first iron bridge in the world" but it's not quite that - with the ones in Lyon and Yorkshire mentioned later on. "Major" might not be the right word but think it needs to be qualified.
• "two miles away" convert for our metric friends.
  • Done
• "The iron bridge was therefore..." shouldn't this be capitalised?
  • Done
• "considered or the" nor.
  • Done
• "in Kirklees, Yorkshire in 1" comma after Yorkshire.
  • Done
• Ref 11 makes no mention of 'iron mad'.
  • Added citation.
• Broseley is overlinked.
  • Fixed.
• "chimney-pieces" why is this hyphenated.
  • Changed to chimneypieces
• "between three and four thousand pounds" I would write this out in numbers and then inflate to 2016 figures.
  • Expanded and inflated.
• " Coalbrookdale" is overlinked.
  • Fixed
• " Royal Assent" no need for capital A.
  • Fixed
• Madeley overlinked.
  • Fixed
• Benthall overlinked.
  • Fixed
• Link some of the jargon, e.g. derrick, abutment, rib etc.
  • Ended up moving a paragraph explaining the components of the bridge further up.
• " in 1779.[25][23] " ref order.
  • Fixed
• " 5.5 long tons (5.6 tonnes)" previous conversion included lbs, suggest this does too.
  • Fixed
• "Two supplemental ..." this (short) paragraph is unreferenced.
  • Refs added.
• cast iron and wrought iron are overlinked.
  • Fixed.
• "harmless Manganese sulfide." -> harmless manganese sulphide (you called it sulphur in the table, not sulfur...)
  • Fixed per WP:SULFUR
• Buildwas is overlinked.
  • Fixed
• Would be interesting to know some of the highlights of the table of tolls?
  • Unfortunately can't find much useful information about the tolls! Cossons and Trinder 2002 is the best source by far available and contains nothing. I'm not sure about the provenance of the table of tolls - there might be some more info in the museum.
• "no money for " budget, instead of money.
• "Construction of the arch was carried out by the Tarmac Construction..." unfortunate repeat of Construction.
• Might need to link this for non-European readers.
• "210 feet span" convert.
  • Fixed
• "1793-96," en-dash not hyphen. Twice.
  • Fixed
• "235ft" convert and consistent spacing before units.
  • Fixed
• Link voussoirs.
  • Fixed
• "a great flood " large flood.
  • Fixed
• "30ft" see above.
  • Fixed
• "(This 1799 ..." don't see why this needs to be in parentheses.
  • Fixed
• "Craigellachie bridge" it was capital B in the preceding text.
  • Fixed
• "(1795-96)" en-dash again.
  • Fixed
• Coalbrookdale overlinked again.
  • Fixed
• "The Tollhouse from the east in 2019" this image is already being used above.
  • Fixed, removed from gallery
• Just let the {{reflist}} do its thing, don't force a width.
  • Fixed
• Single-page references should be p. not pp.
  • Fixed
• Spaced hyphens should be spaced en-dashes.
  • Fixed (I think)
• Online refs should have publication/accessdates wherever possible.
  • Fixed
• Is it BBC or BBC in the refs?
  • I've tried to make it consistent now - so it's BBC News for any news articles and BBC for the non-news pages.
• "Telford and Wrekin Borough Council" is mentioned in the infobox/categories but not the article.
  • Fixed
• "Historic Civil Engineering Landmarks" is a category but not mentioned/ref'd anywhere else.
  • Fixed
• Like for "Archaeological sites in Shropshire"
  • Not sure this can really be referenced?
• Grade I listing is only mentioned in the lead/infobox, not the main prose.
  • Fixed

That's all I have for right now. On hold. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 15:53, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for a very thorough and useful review! The article's had a few major contributors since I last tried to get it promoted 6 years ago - hence the formatting differences! But it's benefitted from having a few more angles. If there's anything else I'll try and look at it this evening! many thanks, Ostrichyearning3 (talk) 17:13, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Ostrichyearning3 It's looking very good now. Last comment, the sentence starting "The Iron Bridge is made of cast iron, ...." and the table appear to be unreferenced? Can you fix that? Then we're good to go. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 07:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Cheers!! I've added another ref and a ref tag in that section. best, Ostrichyearning3 (talk) 10:08, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Ok, the article now easily meets GA criteria. So I'm promoting. Cheers, good work. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 10:35, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks very much for a very helpful review - hope all is well! best, Ostrichyearning3 (talk) 10:44, 10 April 2020 (UTC)