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Reviewer: Rusted AutoParts 20:04, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]


I'll pick this one up. Allow me some time to analyze the page and see what needs to be improved. Rusted AutoParts 20:04, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Some Dude From North Carolina: Sorry for the weeklong silence, I'll begin my review of this and the two others on the weekend. Rusted AutoParts 04:50, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lead/Infobox
    • Could use a bit more to summarize the entire article. There's an entire section about it's impact on the genre that isn't mentioned.
  • Plot
    • Plot exceeds WP:FILMPLOT. Maximum is 700, currently word count is 995.
 Done, word count is now 678 Chompy Ace 13:26, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I don't think the final paragraph needs to spell out who is who in regards to the title.
 Done Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 23:06, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • "The last scene shows the still tied up Tuco [who before retriving his share of the treasure; his empty gun and horse] running after the disappearing Blondie and cursing him "Blondie..you know what you are?..Just a dirty son of a b---h!" Putting the quote isn't necessary. Can be merged into the previous sentence and reformed as "and Blondie rides off into the horizon as Tuco curses after him" or something like that.
 Done Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 23:06, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cast
    • Are all the names noted in the Supporting Cast subsection vital participants in the film? I tend to feel a cast section should really only include those with significance to the film or a notable cameo. If characters like "Bald Onlooker at Tuco's 1st Hanging" or "Deputy" are vital, keep them but I wouldn't see their necessity in the section.
 Done Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 21:34, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's a little weird only one person in Supporting is sourced while others aren't.
  • Themes
  • The film as a Spaghetti Western
    • The placement of this section is curious. This seems more like a subsection for the Legacy section. Also could be renamed to reflect its content, which seems to be its impact on the genre, as "Impact on the Western genre".
 Done Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 23:06, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • The Cinematography subsection seems more relevant in the Production secton.
 Done Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 23:06, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Releases
    • Take the S off the end of Release.
 Done Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 23:06, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Music
    • This should go after the Production section.
 Done Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 23:06, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Legacy
    • "Most of the films were made with low budgets, but several still managed to be innovative and artistic, although at the time they did not get much recognition, even in Europe. The genre is unmistakably a Catholic genre, with a visual style strongly influenced by the Catholic iconography of, for instance, the crucifixion or the last supper. The outdoor scenes of many spaghetti westerns, especially those with a relatively higher budget, were shot in Spain, in particular the Tabernas desert of Almería and Colmenar Viejo and Hoyo de Manzanares. In Italy, the region of Lazio was a favourite location" this paragraph is unsourced.
 Done Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 00:45, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sequel
    • All good here
  • See also
    • All good here
  • References
    • All good here

@Some Dude From North Carolina: I have begun compiling some notes. Rusted AutoParts 22:18, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Some Dude From North Carolina: That's a ✓ Pass here. Good work. Rusted AutoParts 23:56, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Back Story

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First point - the "See Also" section doesn't have any links to sites where fans of the film discuss it's minutiae. Which would be one way to deflect the tendency of such articles to attract "Original Research".

Second point - and very much original research - in the film there are several references to Tuco/ Ugly's back-story - his upbringing as child of a dirt-poor farmer (when talking to his brother in the Mission) ; and how Angel Eyes/Bad recognises him in the prison camp. Someone with a pre-production script or development notes might know about the Angel Eyes-Tuco back story, but I have no idea where such enthusiasts gather (my first point). Secondly, Tuco can barely read ("i-o-dit?" at the bedside, "ukow" at the grave) but runs through the graveyard in search of "Arch Stanton" - which is a harder reading task than recognising "$3000" on his wanted posters where it used to say "$2000" - doesn't add up. If I were totally dedicated to Leone-arcana, I might know where to discuss this with other arcana fans, but I'm not, and my point (1) above leaves me nowhere to mention it but here. Hmmm, six bags of coins hauled out of the grave, but one left for Tuco to bash open with his head when he falls off the makeshift gallows.

Was the film "novelised", as per "2001 - A Space Odyssey"? I have to go back to check TFA for that now.


AKarley (talk) 17:42, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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