Talk:The Gene: An Intimate History

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Requested move 9 September 2018

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Not moved. Consensus is clearly in opposition to the proposed move. bd2412 T 17:48, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Gene: An Intimate History → The Gene – Per WP:SUBTITLE. 142.160.89.97 (talk) 00:32, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Hhkohh (talk) 01:11, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Seems a common name Hhkohh (talk) 01:11, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Hhkohh: How do you reconcile your position with our book-specific guideline, WP:SUBTITLE, which states:

Usually, a Wikipedia article on a book (or other medium, such as a movie, TV special or video game) does not include its subtitle in the Wikipedia page name, per WP:CONCISE. The only exception to that is short article titles, for disambiguation purposes.

142.160.89.97 (talk) 01:07, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SUBTITLE is not a policy, just a guideline, see also WP:COMMONNAME and other related policy Hhkohh (talk) 09:38, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support I see no issue with the requested move, and it abides by the given guideline. -- Alex^TW 03:38, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the primary topic for The Gene should be Gene. power~enwiki (π, ν) 04:41, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Power~enwiki: How do you reconcile that position with WP:SMALLDETAILS? 142.160.89.97 (talk) 05:14, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - continuing on from what Power~enwiki said, I actually think that "The Gene" should maybe be a disambiguation page with at least this page, Gene and The Selfish Gene. I also don't see how the proposed title offers better clearity than the current one. Also, just because 142.160.89.97 keeps on asking - WP:IAR for WP:SMALLDETAILS. --Gonnym (talk) 10:07, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonnym: If this is per WP:IAR, on what basis are you arguing this circumstance to be exceptional, such that it wouldn't have been specifically taken into account in the drafting of WP:SMALLDETAILS? Because if it is not exceptional in any way, to merely disregard a central consensus because we disagree with it would be in violation of WP:CONLEVEL. 142.160.89.97 (talk) 18:30, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't make up rules to a policy. WP:IAR does not ask that. Also, no. I don't think it was taken into account while drafting WP:SMALLDETAILS, as I've learned from experience that a lot of editors prefer to have guidelines and polices as bare as possible so the "spirit" of Wikipedia could be persevered and we'll have to hash the same things on a case-by-case basis each time. --Gonnym (talk) 20:21, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose cited guideline does not apply as disambiguation and long title are clearly beneficial to readers here, and in cases without (book) WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT works for short titles. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:31, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.