Talk:The Forgotten Mountain

Notability Issue

@Eagleash and Martin Urbanec: Why do you think there is notability issue with this article? (Rheadaniella (talk) 17:40, 18 August 2019 (UTC))

@Rheadanielle and Martin Urbanec: As advised at your talk page, the article needs sources that demonstrate it can comply with WP:NFILM and in particular with WP:NFO. Please read those pages. The fact that a film 'exists' does not mean it is worthy of an entry in the encyclopedia, even if it has received a showing at a 'local' festival. Please also see the general notability guidelines. The references are not in English; this makes it less easy to assess them and please also see WP:LANGCITE.

Further, a page for this film has previously been deleted (according to the page curation tool) but I have not yet been able to locate it in the deletion log and am not certain what the reason may have been.

Were it not for the festival showing, the page might have been tagged for deletion and it could yet be as it is still unreviewed. A future reviewer may have a different opinion (either way) but in my view the page should not have moved to mainspace without completing the WP:AfC process. Eagleash (talk) 10:33, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

I just undoed a revision that claims "new references added", while it only removes notability and stub templates. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 10:36, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

@Eagleash: In my opinion, the film complies with WP:NFILM and it was in competition at the festival and it's not a "local" film festival but international. You can research the festival for more information. I just added a new reference in English from another film festival and I think there is enough evidence from reliable sources. It would be great if you can double check and thanks for replying back.Rheadaniella (talk) 08:46, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

@Rheadaniella: I am still of the opinion that it does not pass WP:NFILM. There is not much in the way of SIGCOV in the sources... they seem to be mainly reporrts of the film's existence or release; there are no reviews linked to or details of its 'reception'. It was only the mention of the festival (although not one of the major events) that meant I did not propose it via one of the deletion processes. However, the page is unreviewed and another patroller could pass it.

NB a 'ping' will not work if it, the message and the signature are not all added in one edit. Eagleash (talk) 19:46, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

@Eagleash: I see that you undo my versions, I added new reference and it does comply with WP:NFILM, 2 International Film Festivals, reliable newspaper article about the premiere, film review from the film festival, article about the film and not just interview. Just give me a strong reason why it doesn't meet WP:NFILM otherwise there is no point to keep adding notability tag. Rheadaniella (talk) 11:18, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@Rheadaniella: Your 'ping' did not work for then reasons stated above. I have not altered your versions, merely reverted your disruptive removal of the notability and stub templates. Please stop doing this before you are blocked from editing.

The strong reason is that it does not meet the criteria noted at WP:NFILM and also for the reasons noted above. The onus is on you to show that the subject meets the notability guidelines. Eagleash (talk) 11:56, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@Eagleash: Your "blocked" threat is not an argument about this topic and it doesn't answer my question just by saying "it does not meet the criteria noted at WP:NFILM as I read the criteria before creating this article, this article surely meets the criteria. Rheadaniella ([[User talk:|talk]]) 13:03, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@Rheadaniella: Please indicate which criteria you think have been met.

"Blocked" is neither an argument nor a threat. It is just what can happen if you continue to disrupt the encyclopedia or the review process. Leave the page alone. You have created it, notability is an issue. Allow the review process to conclude. As I've said before, another editor might pass it. Eagleash (talk)

@Eagleash: There is significant coverage in the articles, the film has been commercially released and there is article about the screening times and venue and it has been screened in international film festivals where it received review. Rheadaniella (talk) 13:45, 8 September 2019 (UTC)