Talk:The Favourite

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The ending

I think the final scene is more ambiguous and open to interpretation than a previous editor thought. I've taken out the last sentence of the plot section because I think it's questionable, and more fitting for a film review than an encyclopaedia. Richard75 (talk) 19:37, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Genre

Hey guys was wondering if we could get a consensus to change the genre in the first line which already states "historical period drama" to possibly "black-comedy" instead of just "drama", or as well as "drama". As the film quite notably shows subtle hints of comedy and is very comedic at times, which definitely does not fit into the conventions of a solely drama film and is represented as a black comedy film more so by numerous outlets. Would be happy to discuss further or be shown if this has already been discussed. Cheers -Stuv3 (talk) 12:56, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Based on what reliable source? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:15, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Is a British"

The Director is born and raised in Greece. Let's leave Nationalism out of it and don't say where it's "from". --fs 05:26, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Destroying history making the public ignorant

In the scene in which Abigail is surrounded by several women listening to a lyrical singer, an African woman with a white wig appears seated, which leads to ridicule the filmmaker's desire for integration altering the historical truth, soon we will have a film showing the Queen Elizabeth as dark-skinned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.213.176.215 (talk) 08:33, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Harley, a Tory Member of Parliament

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but in this film Harley is clearly represented as a Whig, and indeed he was part of the Whig party until a later defection to the Tory party. I know the film is not claiming to be historically accurate, but the film clearly represents this Whig v Tory Parliamentary battle, so to call Harley the opposite to what he is in the film is incorrect. In the film, he is leader of the opposition to Godolophin, Prime Minister and leader of the Tory party. I'm going to edit the page to say that Harley was the Leader of the Opposition and remove the misleading political label attributed to him, as this a spoiler free description of his role in the film. Tinndalos (talk) 01:10, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: FrB.TG (talk · contribs) 16:56, 4 April 2019 (UTC) I'll leave comments within this week.[reply]

Thanks for taking on this film article for The Favourite. I plan to be away on Friday and should be able to sign in over the week-end in case you have time to start your edit comments by then. CodexJustin (talk) 19:37, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I will cover the plot section at the end of my review, as I am yet to watch the film, which I'll do today or tomorrow.

"Set in early 18th-century England, the story examines the relationship between two cousins, Sarah Churchill, Duchess of Marlborough, and Abigail Masham, Baroness Masham, vying to be court favourites of Queen Anne. It stars Olivia Colman, Emma Stone and Rachel Weisz." I think it would be wiser if you combined these two sentences like stating who play who: "Sarah Churchill, Duchess of Marlborough (played by Rachel Weisz), and Abigali Misham, Baroness Masham (Emma Stone)..."
"It received numerous awards and nominations, tying with Roma for the most Academy Award nominations, with ten." It should be made clear that the filmed tied with Roma for the most nominations at the 2019 Oscars ceremony.
"The film also won a leading seven BAFTA Awards (including Best British Film)" - why not mention Weisz's win here and let the following sentence be just about Colman?
Why is Yorgos Lanthimos's full name is written (and wiki-linked) in "Pre-production" when he's first introduced in "Writing"?
"Emma Stone auditioned after asking her agent to contact Lanthimos" → "Stone auditioned.."
"Lanthimos asked that Stone—whom he previously knew only from the comedy Crazy, Stupid, Love (2011)—work with a dialect coach." The source does not say that the director knew Stone from Crazy, Stupid, Love.
"but changed her mind after reading the script and ended up "begging" Lanthimos to be cast." This should rather be after she "finished reading" the script, as just "reading" implies she had doubts taking up the role even before she read it.
The quote "It’s unusual, I suppose, to have a film led by three women" from Alwyn is just a repetition of the one from Hoult: "It’s obviously very timely to have three female leads, and it’s wonderful to see because it’s so rare,". Most of what Alwyn says afterwards isn't all that necessary either. I think we could really do some cutting and paraphrasing here.
"Lanthimos said "from the beginning, I had this image of these lonely characters in huge space.."" Two dots at the end.

More later. FrB.TG (talk) 11:06, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That should be up to date now. Ready for next set of edits when you are ready. I'll try to sign in on Wednesday or Thursday after you have a chance to review the film. CodexJustin (talk) 15:10, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay. I’ll finish my review by the end of this week. FrB.TG (talk) 19:28, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I apologise for the delay. I read it to the end, and didn't find anything more to pick up on, spot-checked some sources and checked sources for their formatting, which is okay for a GA. This should be okay for a GA. Good work. FrB.TG (talk) 20:01, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]