Talk:The Emperor's Soul

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Size of plot section

So @DragonflySixtyseven: wrote in a revert: "The amount of coverage the plot receives is proportionate to how much (cited) analysis of the book there is.". I would like to have a Wikipedia policy reference for that. Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia, so as long as the plot is not excessive or inaccurate (and I don't think it was), then no reason to delete.

Also, I will point out that DragonflySixtyseven has completely missed the point of Wikipedia plots. The plot summary he replaced it with says "so if Shai successfully forges a new soul for the Emperor, they will free her.". This is simply not true if you read the book - they do not free her after she forges a new soul for the Emperor. So the replacement plot summary is faulty - Wikipedia plots are supposed to be complete and accurate.

Finally, this is a Hugo award winning novel. So even if there were some rule that the length of the plot section is proportional to the amount of cited sources (which I am waiting for DragonflySixtyseven to point out), then this is one of the most prominent novellas. Thue (talk) 20:38, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

She's told that they will free her. That's the bargain they offer, as indicated by the beginning of the sentence which you quote. It's why she cooperates (even though she expects that they'll betray her). The fact that they're lying is not relevant to a synopsis. Also, this is not a Hugo award winning novel, it's a novella, so what you're saying is inaccurate, so there. As for complete: it's impossible to describe any plot "completely" short of replicating it exactly (for instance, why didn't you mention the part where she has to identify each of the types of rock that's being used to make the walls of her cell? Why didn't you include the part at the end where she remakes herself into a warrior?). As for rules, please read: a) "Wikipedia:How to write a plot summary", b) "Wikipedia:Plot-only description of fictional works" (I know the article wasn't 'plot-only', but there's some important points therein, including a legal precedent), and c) "Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels". (I've also written a short essay on the topic myself, but I'm sure you'd find a reference to it self-serving; if you're interested, you can find it in my userspace.) DS (talk) 21:16, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]