Talk:The Doctor and Student

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:44, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that The Doctor and Student by Christopher St. Germain was used as a primer by English law students for over two centuries?
  • ALT1:... that The Doctor and Student was relied on by students of English law for over 200 years?

Created by AleatoryPonderings (talk). Nominated by Tevildo (talk) at 18:54, 6 January 2021 (UTC).

• AleatoryPonderings, pinging you in case you don't know Tevildo DYKN'd this article. So... the article is new enough and long enough, and is within policy with no copyvios. Four things, though:

1. The lead is very short. But wait, see point 2. Resolved.
2. The hook itself does not appear in the prose. This isn't a huge deal, but people who click it will wonder where exactly the 200-year claim is - they may not remember actively that the book was published in the 16th C. by the time they get to the section that the book was replaced in the 18th C. I suggest moving, or copy-pasting, the second paragraph in the reception section to the lead, directly after "...early 16th century." That way, the lead will be longer, and people will be able to see clearly that the book was used for 200 years, as the hook says. (Alternatively, just add the phrase 'for 200 years' in the second para. in the Reception section, thus: "...English Law students for two hundred years until the advent of Blackstone's...") Resolved
3. The citations are all books. Not a problem at all, really, and I would AGF, but I thought I'd just ask if you could quote the book cited for the 200-year claim. As it stands, the Google Books link included in the citation just shows the book cover and description, not the text used for the citation. Confirmed.
4. Tevildo, QPQ? Provided.

Do these, and the DYK's ready. Best, Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI ^{converse | fings wot i hav dun} 08:58, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI: I believe have addressed points 1–3 above. The specific claim of 200 years/two centuries is a slight inference from the text quoted (see Special:Diff/999141329): the text says Doctor and Student was a "guide for law students" until Blackstone, which suggests approximately two centuries. A possible alt2 (supported by Special:Diff/999143320) would be:

ALT2: ... that Thomas More published a critique of The Doctor and Student?

I will leave the QPQ to Tevildo, since they made the nomination. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 18:20, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

• AleatoryPonderings, I see you've changed the lead - it's good to go now. I'll just have a look at the book, as you said it's archived. Awaiting Tevildo's QPQ claim. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI ^{converse | fings wot i hav dun} 06:16, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

• All done, inline citation confirmed. Tevildo, please provide QPQ. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI ^{converse | fings wot i hav dun} 11:57, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Nyasaland Volunteer Reserve Tevildo (talk) 16:58, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

• Alright then. , for the first hook, as it's more informative, giving the author's name. AleatoryPonderings, Tevildo, congratulations. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI ^{converse | fings wot i hav dun} 17:26, 10 January 2021 (UTC)