Talk:The Divergent Series: Insurgent

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Film title change

It looks to me like the official title is Insurgent. Two sources were used to back up the WP page title change on June 10, 2014 -

Jockzain moved page Insurgent (film) to The Divergent Series: Insurgent - title change per http://variety.com/2014/film/news/daniel-dae-kimsummits-insurgent-1201214178/ and http://www.ramascreen.com/divergent-sequel-is-now-official-titled-the-divergent-series-insurgent-keiynan-lonsdale-is-uriah/

But Variety still lists this film with the one word title (as seen here http://variety.com/t/insurgent/), the cited article does not refer to an official name change, and the second source looks like a blog. The Divergent Series: Insurgent appears to be a logo used on marketing materials.

The page title here should be moved back to Insurgent (film). - Gothicfilm (talk) 00:59, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you look closely the Variety article you used as reference have many articles about film under it and the latest article called the film The Divergent Series: Insurgent (see here http://variety.com/2014/film/news/chef-actor-emjay-anthony-joins-insurgent-cast-1201218378/ and here http://variety.com/2014/film/news/daniel-dae-kimsummits-insurgent-1201214178/) and here http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=119385, Lionsgate is implementing the same thing here, which it did with The Hunger Games (film series), all the sequels have The Hunger Games attached to their name. Like The Hunger Games: Catching Fire and upcoming The Hunger Games: Mockingjay two part film.--Jockzain (talk) 02:24, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that. Many writers like to use the promotional title in their articles. But I also saw that the Variety article only made the word Insurgent into a link to their page on the film itself http://variety.com/t/insurgent/ as if acknowledging the official one word title. Other sources like IMDb also use the one word title, as seen at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2908446/. So it looks to me like the official title and the WP:COMMONNAME is Insurgent. - Gothicfilm (talk) 21:57, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I understand what you are saying but I still think that Lionsgate is implementing the same thing here, which it did with The Hunger Games (film series). I suggest we let other editors who have experience on film related articles give their opinion on this matter. It will solve this matter quickly. What do you say?--Jockzain (talk) 17:32, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The policy at WP:COMMONNAME should be followed. I doubt people will be referring to this film as The Divergent Series: Insurgent. They'll simply say Insurgent, which also is the official title. But the lead sentence should include an AKA with the promotional title in bold as well. - Gothicfilm (talk) 23:05, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"The Divergent Series" part is not like "The Hunger Games" prefix. It's entirely promotional and this article is currently mistitled. Film Fan 22:45, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As I said above, it is not any different than "The Hunger Games or "The Twilight Saga" both handled by Lionsgate. If it is used on those articles, it should be use here too.--Jockzain (talk) 08:52, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The surfix doesen't make sense. If it's part of the title: Why is it hardly to see on the poster? --87.79.130.1 (talk) 08:17, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

The seems to be a problem with reference section in the article.

Critical Reception

The critical reception section looks like it was edited by a fan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.107.125.117 (talk) 11:15, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 31 August 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Rough consensus not to move (non-admin closure) — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 17:08, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Simpler titles. 31.52.4.146 (talk) 15:44, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Natural disambiguation is usually preferred and the nominator's two-word rationale does nothing to address why this shouldn't be the case here. Nohomersryan (talk) 16:32, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The IP troll is back. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 18:14, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose common name of film has "The Divergent Series:" in front. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:46, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It is the name as it appears on the official website and posters.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 23:22, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support note that the suggested names also follow the names of the book titles.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:44, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – one need only look at the poster art... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:00, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose As pointed out by other editors, the official website, posters and promotional material referred to it as The Divergent Series: Insurgent and of course it also helps in disambiguation.--Jockzain (talk) 14:46, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

RetCon

I'm wondering whether - and in which article - the blatant retcon of the existence of the Erudite 'white tower'. It should be clearly visible in the zipline sequence in Divergent, but it is entirely absent. --AlisonW (talk) 13:10, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]