Talk:The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce)
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Cover art
[edit]Hello Tbhotch, according to this, the cover art of this record is a 1×1 all black picture, leaving it blank is really not the way to go. Yes, it may be updated on the 12th, but for the time being that's the cover art and we shouldn't ignore it. dxneo (talk) 17:35, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- On Eminem's official website, you can presave the album without there being any cover art present. This most likely means that the cover is still being kept hidden. Plus, it's not uncommon for cover arts to be blank or a plain color as placeholders. 190.238.75.113 (talk) 17:41, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- It appears that Amazon also has this black square placeholder. 190.238.75.113 (talk) 17:44, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- My point exactly. dxneo (talk) 17:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not disagreeing with you. All I'm saying is that, for the time being, that's all the information we have. It can always be updated when the "official" cover art surface. dxneo (talk) 17:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, can't complain with that. For now, I think the black square can be kept or not. Depends on how quickly we get updates on the cover. 190.238.75.113 (talk) 17:47, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Black covers on Apple are mere placeholders. I simply removed a black square that someone uploaded as a "copyrighted" work, which is not. (CC) Tbhotch™ 18:08, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, can't complain with that. For now, I think the black square can be kept or not. Depends on how quickly we get updates on the cover. 190.238.75.113 (talk) 17:47, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- It appears that Amazon also has this black square placeholder. 190.238.75.113 (talk) 17:44, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Fake tracklists
[edit]@Joyous!: Please remove the fake tracklist "leak" that has been added to the article several times. The only confirmed tracks are the 2 singles "Tobey" and "Houdini". My last attempt to remove it was reverted by Cluebot. 2604:3D09:F82:3400:A1CD:8B43:5388:E1A7 (talk) 01:54, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. I think the fake tracks have been removed. Joyous! Noise! 01:57, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Meanwhile the real tracklist got added to the Apple Music page of the album. It's as official as it gets until the release. Truzo (talk) 20:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Writing credits for the tracklist
Renaissance (Marshall Mathers & Luis Resto)
Habits (Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto, B. Yewah & L. Kråkm)
Trouble (Marshall Mathers, F. Nassar & D. Abernathy)
Brand New Dance (Marshall Mathers & Luis Resto)
Evil (Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto, Don Cannon, Tim Gomringer & Kevin Gomringer)
All You Got (Skit) (Marshall Mathers & Luis Resto)
Lucifer (Marshall Mathers, Andre Young, Thomas Cheval, Luis Resto, S. Jordan, Andreas Holten & Hans van Hemert)
Antichrist (Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto, S. Webb & R. Johnson)
Fuel (Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto, D. Porter, H. LeMon Bey & Thomas Forbes)
Road Rage (Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto, Andre Young, D. Abernathy Jr., S. Jordan, B. Thomas & T. Gray)
Houdini (Marshall Mathers, Steve Miller, Jeff Bass, Kevin Bell, Anne Dudley, Trevor Horn & Malcolm McLaren)
Breaking News (Skit) (Marshall Mathers & Luis Resto)
Guilty Conscience 2 (Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto, F. Nassar & D. Abernathy Jr.)
Head Honcho (Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto & Jameil Aossey)
Temporary (Marshall Mathers & Luis Resto)
Bad One (Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto & B. Yewah)
Tobey (Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto, Sean Anderson, James Johnson, Cole Bennett, Daniyel Weissmann, John Nocito, Carlton McDowell, Marvin Jordan & Julian Harris)
Guess Who's Back (Skit) (Marshall Mathers)
Somebody Save Me (Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto, E. Haynie, Benjamin Levin & D. Stevens) Dylkeath (talk) 06:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Track lengths
[edit]It seems like Amazon shows the length of each track. Should this be added now or once the album releases? Certifiedes (talk) 13:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Track times confirmed by apple api trackTimeMillis for each song `curl -s "https://itunes.apple.com/search?term=the%20death%20of%20slim%20shady"`
Eminem, Big Sean & BabyTron The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Tobey 4m 45s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Houdini 3m 47s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Trouble 0m 41s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Guess Who’s Back 1m 3s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Temporary 4m 58s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Habits 4m 58s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) All You Got 0m 24s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Breaking News 0m 37s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Renaissance 1m 38s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Brand New Dance 3m 27s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Bad One 4m 30s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Guilty Conscience 2 5m 26s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Evil 3m 50s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Lucifer 4m 22s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Antichrist 5m 14s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Head Honcho 3m 55s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Road Rage 3m 38s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Fuel 3m 34s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Somebody Save Me 3m 50s Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) Houdini 4m 57s 173.47.176.243 (talk) 17:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Change track title 'Temporary' to 'Temporary (Feat. Skylar Grey)' 2603:6010:6FF0:540:FF94:F756:106C:82F5 (talk) 00:32, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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In Pacific time zone the album was released on July 11th ILoveSeaOtters (talk) 07:43, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- And also everything west of est ILoveSeaOtters (talk) 07:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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URL in Reference #27 goes to https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/news/eminem-the-death-of-slim-shady-review-woke-ideology/ It should go to https://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/88788/Eminem-The-Death-of-Slim-Shady-Coup-De-Gr%C3%A2ce/ 184.19.110.85 (talk) 17:36, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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Can we use the official tracklist and credits?
[edit]Some errors I've noticed: The offfiical credit/booklet doesn't list Renaissance as "(intro)", Trouble as "(interlude)", Bizarre as a featuring artist (he's credited to Additional Vocals along with Traci Nelson). Also Big Sean & BabyTron are credited as "featuring", like everyone else, not "with". Spacecrunchies (talk) 13:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- I think going by official sources should be the way to go. Supere10 (talk) 14:18, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- All albums in Wikipedia must go by official sources, if not then what's the point? MusicGene (talk) 19:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- @MusicGene well, currently, it's unofficial. I altered it to the official credits but it's since been changed (now all features say "with" apart from Tobey. And Bizarre is back credited). Spacecrunchies (talk) 17:58, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- All albums in Wikipedia must go by official sources, if not then what's the point? MusicGene (talk) 19:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Reception
[edit]Why was the critics section deleted? MusicGene (talk) 19:36, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Trans
[edit]See what can be added from this. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:47, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Reception
[edit]Hello,
I've noticed that a lot of criticism/controversy towards the album (especially among audiences) concerns a sort of 'generational superiority' (for lack of a better term) within some songs' lyrics.
One particularly infamous line regarding this is from the track Trouble, which states "You gonna cancel me, yeah? Gen-Z me, bruh?" Although this line may be considered satire, it still attracted negative attention from certain audience members who saw the line as corny (or took it at face value).
I have not noticed any mention of this in the article, especially in the 'Critical Reception' section, beyond general critical distaste towards the lyrics, so would such examples be a worthy addition? (if it is already in the article, that's my bad)
Thanks! Boxwords (talk) 17:24, 23 September 2024 (UTC)