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German uniform
[edit]IIRC the Finn is placed not simply in a "German uniform" but an SS uniform…also I had the impression that the soldiers that did this to him were German not Finnish (thus not his compatriots)?Historian932 (talk) 19:48, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
The word "kukushka" also appears in a Russian epic about Prince Igor" "To nie kukushka v rosce tyomnoy-" referring to Igor's wife Yaroslavna, who cries and longs to dress wounds on the young breast of her husband. I thought that for russian public that would be the only explanation. (I am only a Czech, but we had this at school - the occupation had several positive aspects.) Stanya, Canada — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.7.179.157 (talk) 18:47, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
The proper meaning of Ivan's "nick-name"
[edit]The Saami and the Finn thought that Ivan's name was "Psholty" (as they heard it) because he answered "Poshol ty!" after being asked by Veikko about his name. Quite literally it means from Russian (word by word) "Go you!", meaning something like "Go away!", "Get lost!", "Back off!" etc. But not as rude as "Fuck off!" - the way it's translated in the article here. I think it should be changed to some more polite way here to match the real truth.
188.187.24.116 (talk) 23:21, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Maybe; but the Russian WP article (ru) doesn't seem to bear that out. пошёл ты translates as "fuck you": Пoшoл ты doesn't translate as anything. As we have to go by verifiability, not truth, and as WP isn't censored, (and as Ivan was a soldier talking to a hated enemy, and as the whole episode is a set-up for a running joke) the original version seems a more likely scenario in the writers mind. So I have restored the original, more abrasive, version. Swanny18 (talk) 16:33, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- (The ru:WP article reads:
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Veikko and Anna, in turn, believe that "Psholty" (distorted the phrase "Fuck you!")- Ivan's name. |
- (Google translation of ru page). Swanny18 (talk) 16:44, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- The article seems to translate it now as "get lost". which seems to be okay since the phrase is an unfinished sentence as it happens to be used in live situations. the full sentence would be "poshol (ty) na huj" which is "fuck off" (literally "go to the penis") so an abriged version omitting the four letter word shoud be translated to something milder, in other words to something harsh/rude but without actually cussing. so i agree, get lost is correct, seems to get the nuance. 89.134.199.32 (talk) 19:45, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
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