Talk:The Chieftains

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Musicians

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by WikiProject Musicians (assessed as Low-importance).

Ireland High‑importance

	Ireland portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ireland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Ireland on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IrelandWikipedia:WikiProject IrelandTemplate:WikiProject IrelandIreland articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Roots music Low‑importance

	Music portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Roots music, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles relating to roots, folk and traditional folk music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Roots musicWikipedia:WikiProject Roots musicTemplate:WikiProject Roots musicRoots music articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Irish music Top‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Irish music, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Irish music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Irish musicWikipedia:WikiProject Irish musicTemplate:WikiProject Irish musicIrish music articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

First to popularize Irish traditionals?

Currently the article opens with the rather presumptuous boast "The Chieftains are not famous for singing [...] best known for being the first band to make Irish traditional music popular around the world." Could someone please add a believable reference for this claim or else remove it? The Dubliners for example were founded earlier and had their first chart hits in 1967, I think. 85.177.111.239 (talk) 01:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have added the qualifier "one of" to tone down that claim. The Clancy Brother and Tommy Makem were well known many years prior to The Chieftains (although they were a mainly singing group).--116.240.250.235 (talk) 04:12, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discography

I've never heard of the album entitled "Concert Orchestra" of 1983 as listed in the discography section. I'm not an authority and would like someone to confirm if there ever was such an album release. Also, I wouldn't want that entry to be deleted until the source 'of that entry' is found, in case there was some sort of obscure/rare album released by the group in 1983. Thanks. Mazighe (talk) 09:48, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Name?

Why did they choose that name ? Johncmullen1960 11:19, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Second external link mentions why. Rmhermen 15:10, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject

Hmmm... I didn't think an article about a musical group, being a group, really fell under the header of "biography." I guess I'm willing to play along, though. — AnnaKucsma (Talk to me!) 16:08, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Name

The etymology was completely untrue. The word 'chieftain' is from French, it has no relation to Gaelic.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.236.242 (talk • contribs)

"-origin ME and OFr. chevetaine from late L. capitaneus" - OED 1999.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.124.133 (talk • contribs)

If you would read the paragraph carefully, you will see that the argument is not that the word "chieftain" has origins in the Gaelic language. Rather, it says that "chieftain" is the English translation of the Gaelic word "taoiseach, which is correct. There is a difference between saying word x is a translation of word y, and saying word x has its etymological roots in word y. Please read the paragraph carefully before you start making changes or deletions. Thanks. ---Theoldanarchist_Comhrá 15:48, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Accepting your interpretation puts the paragraph even more in need of deletion. It says that the Gaelic taoiseach could be translated as chieftain in English, true, though poorly worded as word 'equivalents' do not exist, but why does it say that? Either the suggestion is that the name originally envisioned was 'taoiseach', which the band then translated (if this is the case, where is the source), or it is irrelevant, like writing in an article about The Rolling Stones what there name might be translated as in Gaelic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.179.190.253 (talk • contribs)

First of all, The Chieftains are an japanise band, so an explanation of the meaning of "taoiseach" is entirely appropriate, whereas your example of The Rolling Stones is both absurd and irrelevant. The band took their name from a book of stories entitled Death of a Chieftain by Irish author John Montague, the title of which refers (albeit obliquely) to the death of a taoiseach of old Ireland. I will be adding a reference for same to the article. ---Theoldanarchist_Comhrá 00:37, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pedantic note.japanise is not Gaelic (which is the Highland Scots' language).

Academy Award

In the article, it mentions the group has won an Oscar. What did they win for? - Cubs Fan (talk) 04:20, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Soundtrack for the film Barry Lynden —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.240.250.235 (talk) 04:14, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Need a photo!

Nuff said. We need a photo to make this a proper article. --leahtwosaints (talk) 06:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poor

This article seems to be missing the history of the band. Anyone know anything about them? The first 20 years seem to be practically ignored.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 23:56, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on The Chieftains. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/20120330194342/http://www.westportfestival.com:80/the-chieftains/ to http://www.westportfestival.com/the-chieftains/

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers. —^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 14:36, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on The Chieftains. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20061114044611/http://worldmusic.nationalgeographic.com/worldmusic/view/page.basic/artist/content.artist/the_chieftains to http://worldmusic.nationalgeographic.com/worldmusic/view/page.basic/artist/content.artist/the_chieftains

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 18:55, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified (January 2018)

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on The Chieftains. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20160305113526/http://www.thechieftains.com/main/2012/06/20/nolwenn-leroy-to-join-the-chieftains-in-paris/ to http://www.thechieftains.com/main/2012/06/20/nolwenn-leroy-to-join-the-chieftains-in-paris/

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 03:30, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]