Talk:The Cheese Special

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Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
November 4, 2014	Good article nominee	Listed

Comedy

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Good888 (talk · contribs) 17:39, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Impressed with the quality of this article, considering that this is a 1913 film that is now lost. Nonetheless, I did find the following issues:

Lead section

Link The Moving Picture World.

Plot and cast

Link Corsicana Daily Sun.

Production

"Due the lack of credits for the film, both Louise Fazenda and Henry Mann's roles were provided by Photoplay, in response to an reader inquiry." - Change to "Due to the lack of credits" and link Photoplay.

Reception

What's with linking Chicago, Illinois and none of the others?
"than finer establishments because one of the minor characters spit frequently on camera, interrupting the humor and thus making it unfit for the best theaters." - change spit to spat.
"Another newspaper review said claimed" - Remove said.
"The film is presumed to be lost." - You already noted this in the lead section. I don't think it's necessary here.

References

I have noticed that you haven't linked any of the publishers of these sources. Link them if possible.

Categories

Add this article to the lost films category.

Other

Do any reliable sources comfirm or suggest how or why this film is now lost? Curious.

That's all I could find. Going to promote if all bar the last suggestion is fixed. good888 (talk) 17:39, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

All done @Good888:! This film is actually so basic in coverage that I pulled basically every source I could get from the historical archives and Newspapers.com and I went through Google books as well. It was an important release that faded into obscurity rather quickly. Feature films have about 25% survival rate, but these shorts suffer probably more than 90% losses. AFI has more than 25,000 silent films in its database, but they stopped taking information on shorts from 1911. Silent era, which I've had some disagreement over the index they list, relies on IMDb for data. To their credit, they do list the film, but have the incorrect release date and none of the details I've provided and sourced here. I really wish I had more information like in the case of Who's Your Neighbor?, but at least that film caused riots. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 18:43, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @ChrisGualtieri: for addressing my concerns! Have to say, I was surprised that such an important film could fade into obscurity and only be created on Wikipedia yesterday. Oh and just one more issue in that this article is almost an orphan, as it only links to one article. Nonetheless, I think we can find some articles that link to it easily. Promoting to GA class. good888 (talk) 18:58, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Good888:! I am working on a bunch of silent era films and the entire section is in shambles. The main problem is that films from this era typically have to survive to be added on Wikipedia. The Birth of a Nation is not a GA or FA despite being iconic. The first Les Misérables is lost and I need to copyedit the article I wrote about the film which featured the Alamo prior to its major renovations. Even ones like The Penalty (film) are outright terrible articles despite being major films! We even have the whole film viewable on the article too and it is out of copyright, but yet it languishes. Just an area of Wikipedia that hasn't gotten much love yet. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 19:07, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]