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Online Copy

You can read an online copy of the book in the Questia Online Library: The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence --Loremaster (talk) 23:23, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Toward Featured Article Candidacy

In light of the fact that it is the first book the U.S. government ever went to court to censor before its publication, we should work on improving the The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence article as part of an effort to make it worthy of becoming a featured article candidate. --Loremaster (talk) 14:16, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but I wish I could contribute more as I have not yet read it. Marlith (Talk) 22:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great. Read the section above. --Loremaster (talk) 22:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expand and Improve

Beyond expanding the Reaction section, we need a Content section for obvious reasons but, most important of all, a History section that explores all the legal battles the authors had with the CIA. Although the book itself provides most of this information, it would be nice to have some independent sources. --Loremaster (talk) 21:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interview links

EX-CIA OFFICIAL SPEAKS OUT: An Interview with Victor Marchetti By Greg Kaza

http://ncoic.com/cia.htm This interview points out that, in subsequent printings, the manuscript was resubmitted to the CIA for deletion review. With each printing, more deletions were revoked and by 1983, only 110 deletions were in effect, from an original 340. My personal observation, upon reading the restored redactions, was that it makes for an excellent tutorial on the spurious nature by which documents are censored by the government. In many cases, the material deleted was already in the public domain at the time of publication.

Brief thoughts

I've only glanced at the book, and have some vague memories of hearing about this from years past, so brief means both short in length and short in time that I've looked into this! In addition to the stubbed sections already in the article, here's some other sections to consider: Background (overview of CIA, connection of author's to CIA, etc), Legal actions and CIA review, Critical reception, Similar works. Ravensfire (talk) 20:21, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would support adding such sections. --Loremaster (talk) 01:49, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

claims on content

The article originally stated:

The book contains a list of foreign officials, including King Hussein of Jordan, who received clandestine payments from the CIA in return for "favors".^[1]

No such list appears in the book. The NYT article claims that deleted sections of the book named various leaders as receiving payments. Rgr09 (talk) 13:25, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Binder, David (February 19, 1977). "More Heads of State Are Reported To Have Received C.I.A. Payments". The New York Times. Retrieved August 19, 2010.

[1] Binder, David (February 19, 1977). "More Heads of State Are Reported To Have Received C.I.A. Payments". The New York Times. Retrieved August 19, 2010.

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