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Section sizes

Section size for The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms (20 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	4,156	4,156
Plot	3,326	3,326
Cast	2,114	2,114
Production	18	8,246
Development	4,644	4,644
Creature design and effects	1,660	1,660
Filming	1,160	1,160
Music	764	764
Release	5,026	5,026
Reception	15	2,541
Critical response	2,008	2,008
Reception of the Rhedosaurus	518	518
Legacy	14	11,739
Aftermath and cultural influence	6,717	6,717
Retrospective assessment and analysis	5,008	5,008
References	18	2,185
Footnotes	30	30
Citations	29	29
Works cited	2,108	2,108
External links	1,323	1,323
Total	40,656	40,656

"Undinosaurian skull"?

Plainly someone has been doing some extra-curricular research on the film's dinosaur, no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.109.160.225 (talk) 17:35, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Content question

What does "coining it with the atomic age" meant? It isn't English, that's for sure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnC (talk • contribs) 23:09, 21 October 2011‎ (UTC)[reply]

Plot section

The plot summary is completely wrong. The WikiZilla entry on B20k is excellent. Is it unethical to just copy and paste it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.106.225.81 (talk) 15:36, 16 November 2012‎ (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's a copyright violation to do so. Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:15, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:ACCESS

Is there some compelling reason to violate the MOS in this article? If not, the pseudo-headers should be fixed. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:06, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The compellling reason is not to overwhelm the TOC with unnecessary hierarchical levels, and that the MOS is wrong - it's semi-colons which make screen-readers choke, whereas bold is just read as bold, just like every other bold word in every other article. There is no compelling reason to follow MOS if MOS is mistaken, since MOS is not policy, but a guideline, and is not mandatory. If you make it mandatory by insisting that it always be followed, then you've elevated it from a guideline to policy. If you'd like that to be the case, that's fine, please go start an RfC to make MOS ACCESS a policy, and if it passes, great. In the meantime, as ArbCom has repeated stated in numerous cases, edit warring to enforce MOS is a very, very bad idea. BMK (talk) 03:13, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody said it was mandatory – the guideline banner itself at the top of the page says it will have exceptions. If there isn't one for this case, I fail to see why it should be ignored. Just because you don't like it? I don't think that's a particularly good reason to ignore a guideline. If it means so much to you that you're going to bold and italicize random words in your replies, I guess I could just drop the matter. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:26, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Did you actually read what I wrote? BMK (talk) 03:29, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I did. You know there's {{TOC limit}}, right? It seems kind of tedious to mention something that addressed in the guideline itself. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:31, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn;t do the same thing. With unnecesary hierarchical levels, the "back of the book" sections (see also, references, notes, bibliography, further reading, external links, etc.) take up a inordinately large part of the TOC, at the expense of the actual content of the article -- and they're totally unnecessary. If someone's going to navigate to find notes and sources, a simple "References" in the TOC is sufficient, there's totally no need for all the rest. We're here to serve our readers, not to blindly follow MOS, come hell or high water. BMK (talk) 03:49, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Again this issue comes up, despite BMK's comments on an admin's talkpage not to do this again. MOS:ACCESS is pretty clear, and I concure with NRP. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 08:35, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A.W. not Armond White

Armond White was born in 1953, so he's unlikely to have written the review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:647:4202:B5F:7098:46A9:B15B:835 (talk) 18:04, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup and Expansion

This is another one of those culturally and historically significant films to both WikiProject Horror/Film that has been sadly neglected and forgotten by editors (sighs). I've been seeing a lot of these kind of articles that are of Top or High importance that have just sitting in a very poor state of development. Hopefully someone will see this post and have enough passion for this film that it can finally be given the attention it deserves.--Paleface Jack 15:59, 8 April 2018 (UTC)