Talk:The Baron in the Trees
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Removing sourced text
[edit]The editor(s) of the following IP addresses (geolocated in Rome) have repeatedly removed verifiable sources despite my edit summaries on the relevant Wikipedia rules:
- 87.11.32.18
- 87.9.47.228
- 87.10.24.100
- 80.116.181.47
I've made inquiries as how best to procede in what appears to be a case of disruptive editing in which an editor refuses to make summaries or even discuss the matter on the Talk Page. If, on the other hand, these disruptive edits were made in good faith, do please outline your reasons so that we can try and resolve the problem. --Jumbolino (talk) 14:36, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Copyright problem removed
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plot summary inadequate
[edit]It is too detailed in the first one and half sections of the book, and glosses over the rest by one sentence. The summary is also broken, without proper transition between paragraphs. Schpnhr (talk) 06:08, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Plot summary completely wrong, reverting
[edit]As far as I can tell, this plot summary was written by someone who really didn't understand the story at all, or had some memory of it from years ago. I'm removing it because (a) it's all completely wrong, as described below, and (b) it devotes the entire summary to the first ten pages of the book, and then finishes lamely with "From the branch, Cosimo uses his spadino (little sword) to pierce the apple in the girl's hand. Ultimately, Cosimo finds a way to stay in the trees for most of his life," which basically describes the other 99% of the book in one sentence.
I'm reverting the summary back to the way it was before User:I Draghi di Vroengard edited it, as it was in a fairly good state before.
I'm making a whole-sale reversion, but below is a point-by-point summary of some of the many things wrong with the summary:
Cosimo's father, Baron Arminio, married the General of the War of Succession (his mother), Corradina. | The general was Cosimo's grandfather, not mother. The mother was nicknamed the Generalessa, but was not, herself, a general |
La Guerra di Successione (the War of Succession) is a war between the Baron Arminio and an opposing family whom has equal rights to the throne. | No, the War of Succession was a war that occured before the story starts, and both the father and the maternal grandfather were on the same side as the Empire. It relates to the 1740 - 1748 War of the Austrian Succession (it mentions Maria Theresa as sending the mother a gift after her father died |
The parents who both have identical interests in claiming the throne agree to marry (even though they don't love each other) to give their children more rights to the throne. | No, neither parent wants "the throne." The father wants to become a Duke. The mother is uninterested in anything but embroidery and getting her sons to join an army. |
The Baron, who is half-mad with a malicious streak, abuses his children constantly | Citation? The narrator says that the father is a "bore, but not a bad man." There are two instances of beating as punishment, which was hardly strange for the time. |
without the mother who is usually fighting in the war on horseback with the head general | What? The mother spent her whole time in her room doing embroidery. |
In fact, Battista used to be coaxed by Arminio to get married at a young age, so she decides to become a priestess | Battista decides to become a nun after she was almost raped by the son of a hostile Marquis |
One day, when the Baron invites the Courts of France to lunch at noon | The book says that the people at the table were the father, mother, sister, two brothers, the tutor and the uncle. |
Baron scolding Cosimo for embarrassing him in front of the Court of France, who eats snails for a delicacy | This is simply invented. |
— Sam 63.138.152.135 (talk) 17:35, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Tense problems in plot summary
[edit]It might just be me, but the whole last couple paragraphs of the plot summary feel decidedly unencyclopedic (and the overuse of "will" in the future tense is a bit odd). Anyone feel the same way? 2601:646:8100:F950:54B4:F967:8572:43D3 (talk) 06:36, 16 October 2019 (UTC)