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Ernie (The Fastest Milkman in the West)

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There is lots in this song that is reminiscent of Ernie (The Fastest Milkman in the West) by Bennie Hill. Starple (talk) 22:49, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you had been commenting on the way that Benny Hill's song is in some way similar to "Big Bad John", I could understand the comparison.
However, the chief connection between Ernie and the subject of this article is that they both contain words.

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by RoySmith (talk01:43, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by BennyOnTheLoose (talk). Self-nominated at 18:53, 11 September 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • "Lee asks Priest for a loan of money. Lee offers the money freely. Priest spends it in a brothel over 16 days, then dies of thirst in Priest's arms." This makes no sense and needs to be reworded--I can't even find a way to switch only one name and make it make sense. Jclemens (talk) 05:34, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • New enough and large enough expansion (was 5x from last revision prior to edit; looks like some old removal of POV edits might account for this). QPQ present. Hook source article is a non-politics Rolling Stone piece and checks out to support the hook. No sourcing or textual issues; Earwig gets hung up mostly on song titles and small quotes. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 08:19, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ippantekina (talk · contribs) 07:44, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a. (reference section):
    b. (citations to reliable sources):
    c. (OR):
    d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a. (major aspects):
    b. (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
    b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

Lead and infobox

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  • "The song's lyrics refer to two friends, Frankie Lee and Judas Priest. Lee asks Priest for a loan of money. Priest offers the money freely. Lee spends it in a brothel over 16 days, then dies of thirst in Priest's arms" This reads rather staccato. Any ways to improve the flow?
  • "He has performed the song live in concert 20 times, from 1987 to 2000." → "Dylan has performed..."

Background and recording

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  • "spent the next year-and-a-half recovering at his home in Woodstock and writing songs" → "spent the next year-and-a-half recovering and writing songs at his home in Woodstock"
  • "From around June 1967, to October of that year" → "From around June to October 1967"
  • "; some of the recordings were issued on The Basement Tapes in 1975" → I suggest removing this as it has no direct relation to this song or the album John Wesley Harding
  • "In 1968 it was issued as the lead track of an EP single in Portugal,[16] and it was included on the compilation box set The Original Mono Recordings (2010)" → "It was issued as ... in Portugal in 1986, and included on ... in 2010."

Lyrical interpretation

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  • "Lee asks Priest for a loan of money. Priest offers the money freely. Lee spends it in a brothel over 16 days, then dies of thirst in Priest's arms" ditto
  • "Scholar of English Homer Hogan" → English-language scholar Homer Hogan
  • "and Priest represent the music business" → may present
  • Inconsistency of present ("Critic Andy Gill regards", "Hogan argues that") and past ("AJ Weberman interpreted the song" etc) tenses throughout

Reception and influence

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  • I tweaked the heading myself; feel free to revert (as long as you leave out the comma as in the previous version)
  • Avoid one-sentence paragraphs

Live performances

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  • "live 30 times" lead says 20?

Verdict

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