Talk:The Andrew Neil Show (2019 TV programme)

	Television portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Television, a collaborative effort to develop and improve Wikipedia articles about television programs. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page where you can join the discussion. To improve this article, please refer to the style guidelines for the type of work.TelevisionWikipedia:WikiProject TelevisionTemplate:WikiProject Televisiontelevision articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the British television task force.

BBC Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject BBC, an attempt to better organise information in articles related to the BBC. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page where you can join us as a member. You can also visit the BBC Portal.BBCWikipedia:WikiProject BBCTemplate:WikiProject BBCBBC articles

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Tasks for WikiProject BBC:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : Improve BBC, BBC News (TV channel) and BBC News to Good Article status following previous reviews, create BBC Computer Literacy Project (in light of forthcoming 30th anniversary)
Cleanup : Chucklevision - references and general clean-up, Pebble Mill Studios - over-detailed and long, BBC World Service Television - unreferenced and confusing
Copyedit : BBC News, Broadcasting House
Expand : Top 20 start-class BBC articles with most importance: BBC Japan, BBC World Service Television, BBC Lifestyle, BBC Two Northern Ireland
NPOV : Criticism of the BBC (See comments)
Stubs : Stub-Class BBC articles
Other : *Restructure the category
- Add infoboxes to the BBC articles without infoboxes
- Add free-use images to biographical articles where possible
- Add references to Goa Mix (see assessment) and Coat of arms of the BBC
- Return Dad's Army to a Good article. (See comments)
- Reassess BBC following improvements to article.

Is replace by was

This article begins by saying "The Andrew Neil Show is a BBC political programme". Since the programme will be finishing soon, "is" will soon need to be replaced by "was". Vorbee (talk) 15:07, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done Andysmith248 (talk) 15:33, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Past or present tense

@This is Paul: I changed the inital description of the programme to past tense as the last programme was back on 11 March. Would there be a reason to use present tense given we know the show's been cancelled? Andysmith248 (talk) 21:50, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The consensus seems to be to do this with past shows, starting with the present tense with the initial description, then switching to the past tense when describing when it was on air. Check out articles on other past politics shows such as On the Record, Politics Show and Weekend World. It's never made sense to me either, but that's Wikipedia for you. This is Paul (talk) 23:08, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks for replying. Andysmith248 (talk) 11:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that Wiki policy was generally that TV shows, even if cancelled, are referred to in the present tense (e.g. "Cheers is a situation comedy") because even though production has finished, the programmes themselves still exist and are available to watch. On that basis I'd say that it's probably alright to use a firm "was" in any connection with a programme such as this, covering news and current affairs, as previously broadcast episodes are generally never available to watch again. Bonusballs (talk) 12:15, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Past shows such as Breakfast with Frost, Daily Politics and After Dark use "was", whilst others, such as those This is Paul mentioned above, go with "is", so there doesn't seem to be much constituency across articles. I understand what you mean by saying news-related programming is unlikely to be watched again, although having said that there are currently four episodes of this show available on BBC iPlayer. I can see arguments for both "is" and "was". Andysmith248 (talk) 13:02, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]