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Trivia section

It says that this season features the first open lesbian, Lauren. Wasn't one of either Tian or Jaree from Season 4 a lesbian? I seem to recall that it caused some degree of conflict between the two of them.68.166.88.10 20:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Intersection

Do you have any idea how we will illustrate the "two team working together" concept here?

Put in a little footnote thing? ~Eilicea (still not logged in)

I've put matching colored + signs for the Intersected teams. Radagast 02:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wait.....

How did Tyler and James get to second place so quickly? I stopped watching the show when they got lost for the second time (why can't they read a map?) on the way to the post office. It seemed almost certain that they were going to lose. Eilicea (not logged in.)

Mother Motherland

When clicking on the Mother Motherland wikilink, it says there are a few in different former USSR states. How do we know this is the one from Ukraine? TeckWiz is 12 yrs old^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 20:34, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Futon Critic listing for upcoming episodes basically confirms the Ukraine visit. --Madchester 23:58, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Legs 6 and 7

what is wrong with putting post office in brackets after Case Noyale, that is where they got the detour. on leg 6, the fast foward was not completed in the kuwait towers it was completed in the desert.

The markers are based on where teams received their clue. --Madchester 22:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But they got the detour clue at the Case Noyale post Office

That is right. The detour clue was given by that guy at the post office, so shouldn't it be in there? TeckWiz^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 20:31, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do we note Intersection?

For Leg 8 in Madagascar when teams arrived at the Black Angel, there was the new Intersection and a Fast Forward. How are we going to note the Intersection? Is there an icon for it like the Detour and Roadblock? UWAFanatic05 01:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I think the current marker icons are from the CBS page. I think they are copied and slightly altered, making them able to be used here. If I'm right about this, we can do it tomorrow, when they put in the leg descriptions. T e ckWiz^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 01:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not seeing the eppy until I D/L it, but you can simply use a superscripts. --Madchester 02:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It would be great if someone could create an icon based on the sign above the clue box. At any rate, I've noted the Intersected teams in the standings table with colored + signs. Radagast 02:43, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That Intersection icon looks great! I just wanted to say to whoever created it, you did an awesome job! UWAFanatic05 21:37, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the colored "+" are working well - I'm not colorblind but it's hard to make out the differences between them. I think it may be wiser to do "M1", "M2", "M3" (same color) and noting that these indicate the matched teams for the intersection.--Masem 14:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the coloured "+" are good in theory, just the wrong colours were chosen. DarkGreen and Blue both appeared very similar on screen. I tried changing the Green to Red instead, and it seems much more obvious now what the teams are. How does that work for you? --Maelwys 15:25, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's better for me - I'm just worried if in future races we'll need more colors (i.e. an intersection with 8 or 10 teams in the mix). Unless a better idea for the present case is determined, I'd say let it sit, and then consider the more complicated case when it arises in future races. --Masem 16:14, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If it's preferred that way, it's fine with me - I just picked three colours that seemed different and were not used for other symbols and assigned them randomly. Radagast 04:54, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pit Stop separately?

From the article: "This is the first season where team members were instructed to go to the Pit Stop separately, but check in together". Didn't this happen in season one Leg 6 where one team member drove a slow car to the pitstop and the other team member was driven there in a fast car and they met up and checked in together?Tazz765 04:17, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're quite right, the Italy leg. I've removed that note. Radagast 04:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you specify WHICH SEASON are you talking about! Aeron Valderrama 03:42, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Flight info for Leg 9?

Even though teams were given tickets to Paris, they still went through Johannesburg, Addis Ahaba, and Frankfurt to get to Helsinki. Are we noting flight info using the flight icon and the airport's name in Helsinki? I was just wondering since all other legs are like that. UWAFanatic05 01:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

This is what I can gather how they flew from Antananarivo to Helsinki (it was said on the show that they departed at 5 a.m. via JNG, ADD, FRA arriving in HEL at 10.20 a.m. next day):

Air Madagascar MD 124
Antananarivo (TNR), Antananarivo, Madagascar (Dep: 05:00)
Johannesburg International (JNB), Johannesburg, South Africa (Arr: 07:20)
Non-stop 3h20min B733

Ethiopian Airlines ET 808
Johannesburg International (JNB), Johannesburg, South Africa (Dep: 14:45)
Bole (ADD), Addis Ababa, Ethiopia (Arr: 21:10)
Non-stop 5h25min B757

Ethiopian Airlines ET 706
Bole (ADD), Addis Ababa, Ethiopia (Dep: 23:40)
Frankfurt International (FRA), Frankfurt, Germany (Arr: 05:15+1 day)
Non-stop 7h35min B767

Lufthansa LH 3100
Frankfurt International (FRA), Frankfurt, Germany (Dep: 06:55)
Helsinki-Vantaa (HEL), Helsinki, Finland (Arr: 10:20)
Non-stop 2h25min B735

FlyerBoy 08:27, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yield

I'm the one who confirmed the yield for leg 3 (I just forgot to log in) however, the exact location of the yield is uncertain, so I don't know where to put it in the race locations (the small yield card picture. What should I/we do? Shadow2 05:54, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide where you get the source because you so sure, you should have evidence to prove it. --Aleen f1 06:20, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's java, so there's no direct link, but go to http://www.cbs.com/sprint/video.php, click on finish line and click 11/06/06. Mary confirms it. and incedentaly, I already posted a reference on the main page. 70.68.233.150 07:19, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

dangit! I always forget to log in! that was me above Shadow2 07:19, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I say we should treat unshown Yields the same as we treat unshown Roadblocks/tasks. We indicate in the table and the legs section as what was shown on TV and reported in the TAR official website. If there are unshown Yields/tasks, then report them in the trivia section. --Destron Commander 05:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vipul & Arti

Why does their nickname (Team Karma) keep getting deleted? It's proven in episode 1! I have it video taped. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadow2 (talk • contribs)

Team Karma was said by I think Lyn & Karlyn last night, but I don't remember what they said. I would think if they're talking about a team, they are probably still racing, so are you sure Team Karma is Vipul & Arti. editor review me!-T e ckWiz^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 12:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure! I have the first episode recorded, and they say it a couple of times, they nicknamed theirselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadow2 (talk • contribs)

Team nicknames are really tricky. Teams have named themselves in the past ("TnT", "The Big Kahunas"), but unless it's used more than a passing instance by other teams, it's hard to say it's a verifiable name. Generally teams that have a longer run will more likely end up with a nickname other teams use, so in V&A's case, their short run really doesn't help. Now mind you, I'm not saying this is the end-all statement on team nicknames, and I leave it open for comment; I just feel that a self-given team name that no other team picks up and use is not WP material.

Also please note that linking to copyrighted material on YouTube is against WP policy. If we do decide to add that Team Karma's their name, you can just ref it as "Episode 1 of Season 10", possible a recap from TWOP or TarFlies if it's mentioned there. --Masem 00:58, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Even though I uploaded that YouTube video? Shadow2 02:15, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Of CBS/WRP's property. Depsite it being 'your' video, it's not "your" video, and technically you're violating YouTube AUP. That's why youtube links in WP require careful screening and consideration due to copyright problems. --Masem 02:20, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Leg 9 Halfway Result

The order of completion for the first half of leg 9 is already entered in the table. But the actual results were never shown on the show in the first half. Does anyone have a source for this or is this just speculation based on order that they reach the tower. Tazzy531 16:12, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even have a source, we cannot accept it, because is not final result in that leg of the race. Remember Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not #Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information --Aleen f1 16:29, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't get what WP:NOT has to do with this. I don't think it should be there anyway. T e ckWiz^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 21:00, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I simply posted it as a placeholder (hence the italics) until the final leg result next week. I see that such info is indeed against general policy, so I won't debate the revert. Radagast 02:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Overnight in Helsinki?

How did it work that there was no pitstop in Helsinki after the day in Finland? Some of the teams left Tampere on the 16:11 (4.11 p.m.) train which got them to Turku at 18:23 (6.23 pm). It's an hour's drive to Lohja and to complete the mine task they could maybe finish at 19:45 (7.45 pm). Then driving an hour to Helsinki and you could have completed the Olympic Stadium task at let's say 21:00 (9 pm). (No problem with sunlight, by the way: the sun sets around 11 p.m. in Helsinki during June.) So when did they actually fly to Kiev, the next morning?

(I haven't seen the episode for the second episode of Leg 9, that's why I have to ask. It's not written very well in the article what actually happened when they were told to keep racing.)

FlyerBoy 08:05, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, so they slept at the airport before flying to Kiev. The funny thing, though, is the fact that if you look at the "Departures" screen right when the models arrive at the airport, you can see that there is a 23:45 (11.45 p.m.) Aerosvit Airlines flight to Kiev! However, that was not a scheduled flight but a special charter for some reason, so they couldn't board it... FlyerBoy 18:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Team photos

Hi, I just added team photos fro better orientation between teams (I found myself forgetting names and pictures help me remember things ;-) )

I used team photos from team navigation on TAR 10 official site, because they are small, but clear at the same time. I could used team pictures from TAR intro, but this was easier ;-) I hope it is ok to use them (because of the quality and resolution).

The drawback is, that the result table is much higher :-( If you have any other idea, how to present team pictures, try it. Also we can try to shrink the pictures a little, but I'm unsure about the result.

→ Zarevak 20:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it is needed, as we have two website, Official one and TARflies to view the teams. So, anyone agree with me? --Aleen f1 00:00, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, the team photos are not needed. they make the table look a lot bigger. also if it is done on this one then it could have to be done on all 9 previous races--Irishboi 02:31, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It makes the table too big, and it messes up the clean look. editor review me!-T e ckWiz^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 12:02, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Putting the team photos is not really needed. The tables for the articles of every other season don't have photos. And TeckWiz is right. It makes the table way too big. I like the more compact pictureless table better. - 上村七美 | talk 13:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If team pictures must be put, I suggest making them even smaller and put them right beside the names and not above. --Destron Commander 14:07, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My original version was with pictures on the left of the team name. User:UWAFanatic05 added BRs later: my original version UWAFanatic05 version

I made a change to the table, so pictures now have special column and are 25% smaller (to 75% size). I tried 50% version as well, but then 3 teams: Dustin & Kandice, David & Mary and Kellie & Jamie are harder to recognize. (using Wikipedia resize)

Adding pictures for season 9 should not be a problem - official sie uses same navigation technique and team pictures are avaiable in same size and quality. Older season official sites uses different design.... :( →Zarevak 14:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think you see what Survivor series doing. However, this is more than unneeded, as all the season of Amazing Race official site is still exist, and CBS seems to archive all, so we can look through there. --Aleen f1 16:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The idea about adding photos to this page is not connected to Survivor page. The idea came to me, when I was reading the page and I had problems connecting described events with people on the show. The only ones I remembered at the time was my favorites Peter & Sarah. At first I thought about adding some basic info about teams, but this would clutter the page and would be nothing more than copying information from the official site. Adding the photos helped me recalling which team does the notes refer to without needing to open official page. The Official site doesn't even allow to connect names to pictures, but the other way around (because it's easier for visitors to recognize teams by pictures and team names will be forgotten faster in time then pictures)

BTW:Even now I don't remember names of all contestants. →Zarevak 17:39, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed all the team photos per Wikipedia's fair use policy. Copyrighted photos can only be used for limited commentary; you can't simply declare them to be "fair use" and put a dozen of them on a single article. --Madchester 02:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, that solved the whole issue and busted my idea :-( I hereby declare this discussion closed and ready for archivation → Zarevak 18:20, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yield Sign

I think the yield sign has been taken out 3 times or more by registered users. There is a spoiler warning somewhere above this section, Why do people keep removing it. It's basically vandalism. I don't have time to put it back now. Someone please do it for me. editor review me!-T e ckWiz^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 12:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not vandalism! It's how the episode was presented and how it was reported in the website. Did anyone bother to put unshown Roadblocks/tasks in the Legs section even though we know what the tasks consisted of? No! As far as the larger world knows, there is no Yield. Yes, in the Finish Line interview, Mary says it's leg 4 yet we see a scene from leg 3. Is she remembering it wrong or was she right? Did CBS.com meant to mislead us? The only one who can definitely confirm the Yield's actual placing is none other than CBS. Anyone disagree on this? --Destron Commander 14:34, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, several Yields in previous seasons have also gone unshown and unreported but spoiled for us by racers in interviews and by insiders. Did we bother to put them in the results? I say treat unshown Yields the same as unshown Roadblocks/tasks. Why should this one Yield be any different from them? --Destron Commander 15:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think we're talking about the yield indications for the as yet unseen Leg 10. (Yields not shown but are known to exist should be footnoted like for the Maritius roadblock). But in regards to TeckWiz's comment on the upcoming yield removal, I personally think that unshown leg results should not be included. I could, at least right now, fill in most of the rest of the table with what we know from spoilers, but it makes no sense to do that. I think that the spoiler warning above the table shouldn't even been there. Yes, this show is still airing, and thus information is subject to change, but what's present outside of the future legs should be factual as the rest of the world can see, and not based on spoilers. Add in the fact that in 4 weeks, 99% of the information on this page will become static and unchanged, so I see no reason why we have to rush in and fill in details of yet-unaired legs. --Masem 15:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why should we fill out the table you ask? Because the Wiki is for information. You shouldn't keep it off a page because you don't "want to rush into it". If it's true, it should be there. If your saying we shouldn't fill it in, why do we have the upcoming leg countries? If someone has the time to put it in, why take it out? Once again, why take something out of an article when it belongs? editor review me!-T e ckWiz^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 20:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Masem, we're actually talking about leg 4. The problem with putting an unused Yield marker in an episode that was presented as having no Yield available in that leg is that there is no one else who is going to confirm it aside from the interview. An interview where the interviewee is trying to remember from memory. CBS did not deny it but neither are they going to confirm there was a Yield in leg 4. As good reporters, we should use "according to" not "in fact there is". Besides, this unseen Yield is already mentioned in the trivia section. --Destron Commander 01:20, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Acutally, I was talking about the future yeild sign in my last comment. editor review me!-T e ckWiz^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 01:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll believe there was a Yield in the Vietnam leg but CBS continues to maintain in their website there wasn't any in either leg 3 or 4. That would make you think how are you going to actually accurately report it. I hope you understand. --Destron Commander 01:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I thought was up for discussion (the constant adding and removing of the leg 10 Yield indicators (since we know it's there from the preview, but we don't know (unless you go to spoilers) who yields who, if any. Here's my take : even though the table has a spoiler warning above it, it really makes the entire page useless to someone who wants to find out past leg results and yet doesn't want to be spoiled. On the other hand, having a SMALL section of spoilers about future destinations well below the table isn't going to ruin the experience and yet still make 99% of the page useful. Thus, as I see it, the spoiler at the top of the page should be removed (though leaving the warning about this being a show in progress), no yield information on Leg 10 should be included in the table, though in the spoiler section on future legs, it's fair game to include. That is, in general, nothing about an unaired leg shoauld be entered into a table until it airs, even if it's in the previews. (and as I mentioned previously, unaired yields/RBs/whatever like the Leg 4 ought to be noted in the leg details below the table, but not referenced in the table, which makes the table a summary of the show as seen by the viewer. But that's my take. --Masem 02:08, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As Madchester said a long time ago, "Wikipedia doesn't run on tape delay". The show is in progress, so basically everything on the page is a spoiler to people if you consider a spoiler to be "who came in first on a previous leg", or something like. The yeild is no different from anything else.

The problem with unseen Yields is there is no other way to confirm it aside from the interview. Maybe if there were photos or documents. As an editor, if it can't be verified, it's not going to fly by me. --Destron Commander 02:44, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Once again. I'm done with that. You're right. I'm talking about the future yield you removed a few times, when the preview for next weeks show clearly tells you it. editor review me!-T e ckWiz^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 02:48, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'm not going to argue on leg 10 but I do think you're rushing too much to get information out on an episode that is yet to be aired. --Destron Commander 03:11, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Our note on the Yield says, "<> indicates a leg where the Yield was available but not used." SO, we should include ALL yields available but not used, which can be VERIFIED by a credible first-hand source (either by the producers, or yes RACERS) WE should put the "<>" again! Aeron Valderrama 07:16, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's one solution... the other solution would be to get rid of that note, and only have the yields shown in the table that actually appeared on TV, as part of the race. Leave off the unused yields completely, since they didn't affect the race at all and are generally not shown on TV. --Maelwys 12:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think this episode shows why that, even though there was a 99% chance that results would go in one direction based on previews, until the actual episode airs, there should be nothing put into the table until the episode airs. (Future leg locations and possible tasks below are fine, on the other hand). --Masem 05:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Production Interference

Does anyone else think that production helped Dustin and Kandice get on the Ouazza-whatever flight in leg 10? First we see them hearing that the flight is closed...then we see NO footage of them...then POOF! they're with all the other teams. I think some research is in order. -Shadow2

Not a good place to ask this (this isn't a message board), but I also think it doesn't matter: they had plenty of time to locate a second flight to Casablanca in time to join the rest of the teams to the last flight in (and if Alabama missed the first flight but got on a second and still got there in time, I expect the same happened to be the BQs, they just didn't show it up to increase the drama. Production is NOT going to get involved, particularly with the bad taste that TAR7 left (Uchenna and Joyce made that plane, but the edit made it feel like production influence. --Masem 13:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm not using this as a message board, I thought it could be a trivia bit.

-Shadow2

Minor edit required

The note in the Trivia/In-Race section says that Spain has only been used in flight layovers. This is not true. There's the infamous first diesel/unleaded fiasco while driving from Portugal to Morocco through Algeciras, Spain.

I'd edit it, but for some reason I don't get the pre-existing text to alter.

Thanks.

24.87.45.222 04:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Finale Delay

Just a notice to people who may revert when someone puts in the winner of the race around [local hour race airs in your zone]:50 -There will be about an 8 minute delay of the finale in some places because of football. So, don't revert if it doesn't look like vandalism, and unless you want to see the ultimate spoiler, you should stay clear of this page, like I will be doing. Lastly, remember: Wikipedia isn't delayed for the benefit of people. T e ckWiz^TalkContribs_@ 23:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Filming Dates: The last day

The last day of filming was June 24th. We've got June 25th on the page right now. That date was a calculation of 30 days plus start date. Which, at the time it went up, was the best official information. But we know from three spoiler sources that the last day was June 24th. Now that the show has aired and the spoiler sources have been confirmed by the show's content I think we should use them as the best information for the end date.

Source 1: Photos of teams at the Eiffel Tower on June 23rd.

Source 2: Teams seen a CDG airport on June 23rd trying to get on the Air France flight to JFK.

Source 3: Lyn & Karlyn seen in Manhattan on June 24th at 1:15 at the NBC building

Chateau d'If 20:26, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting... so what date would Dustin & Kandice have been eliminated? Because the Miss CA 2006 pageant started June 28 and NY the day after... and they would have had to have been there for that. Makes it quite tight! -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 21:10, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dustin & Kandice were eliminated on the 22nd. We know that for sure from a stunning spoiler where a production sheet of Race activities in Barcelona was leaked. It contained specific date and location information about the 10 am opening hours and both halves of the detour. It also predicted when teams would be arriving in Barcelona. Chateau d'If 03:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The last day of filming on the page has been changed to June 24th. I agree with you all about the sources, so I just changed it. UWAFanatic05 06:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unsuitable image appears to me

When I press "Article" at the top or "Amazing Race 10" at the bottom, a huge image of "L'Origine du monde" appears. This is quite nasty, does anyone else have the same problem? I wonder where the image even appears from.. 84.231.12.104 13:09, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It looks to be gone now. There's been a recent rash of people editing some of the basic templates (that're used on a lot of pages, but basically invisible to the average reader since they're just background stuff) to include images like that, so that they appear in a lot of pages but not in the source so that they can't easily be removed. Hopefully the admin's are working on a solution to that... --Maelwys 13:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, gone it is :) 84.231.12.104 13:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Countries visited

Labeling the destinations of Hong Kong and Macau as "People's Republic of China" and Guam as "United States" distorts the nature of these destinations. Although ultimate sovereignty does indeed lie in Beijing and Washington for these two territories, they are distinctly different than their overseers. All three destinations have a distinctly different system of government and culture than China or the US. Hong Kong has its own Olympic Team, for example, highlighting the fact that although the city is part of China, it is still in many ways separate. Thus, it is most appropriate to list these destinations as Hong Kong SAR, Macau SAR, and Guam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.106.7.35 (talk • contribs)

I don't know why you are bringing up this discussion for TAR 10 and not TAR 11. Anyway, I will bring this comment to the relevant place: Talk:The Amazing Race 11. Tinlinkin 05:36, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

References Section

The reference in which Peter & Sarah confirm their arrival after David & Mary's departure is not a real reference. I mean, the link directs to the main page of the early show web and I've not benn able to find the article!!!!!!!. Please, I'd like to read the real article about this.

Another thing, The reference about the missed Roadblock is dead....

Thanks

The link to the Early Show was likely meant to refer to the as-televised interview. TES rarely duplicates content to their website. And unfortunately, dead links are hard to restore. --Masem 00:18, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with Trivia entry

"During the first leg, Bilal and Sa'eed were eliminated when they arrived last at a checkpoint in the middle of the leg, the first and so far only time a team has ever been eliminated before a leg's official pit-stop end location. "

This is actually incorrect. At least two teams have been eliminated away from the Pit Stop. Lena and Kristy couldn't complete the hay-bales task and were eliminated there. Marshall and Lance quit, so Phil came to them to eliminate them —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadow2 (talk • contribs) 06:51, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You typed in Meredith and Maria. The hay bales team was actually Lena and Kristy. I fixed it for you. 65.77.49.164 (talk) 23:02, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adding leg 1 midpoint to the positions

ive added the leg 1 midpoint, since the twist to eliminate bilal and sa'eed did make it important to put the finishing order there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.96.85.193 (talk) 19:18, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm deleting this as the finishing order was irrelevant other than the last team to arrive was eliminated. It was a normal "departure time" route marker with a twist and the old table showed this information fine. 93.96.23.89 (talk) 02:48, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am a Chinese student,I want to make a tall about the 5 former team,but I don't have a good idea. So I came here for help. Please give me a hand!Thanks very much! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.217.38.13 (talk) 04:10, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Leg 1 placements

i would not use that template like that, and everyone misunderstood that it was a double-length leg. in fact it ws not. i would show this like that (but not put in the real page)

Team Name	Relationship	Leg 1 (1) 1	Leg 1 (2)
Tyler & James	Models	4th	1st
Rob & Kimberly	Dating	9th	5th
Lyn & Karlyn	Single Moms / Friends	3th	9th
Dustin & Kandice	Beauty Queens	8th	4th
Erwin & Godwin	Brothers	11th	7th
David & Mary	Coalminer & Wife	7th	10th
Peter & Sarah	Recently Dating	1st	3rd
Tom & Terry	Boyfriends	5th	8th
Duke & Lauren	Father / Daughter	2nd	2nd
Kellie & Jaime	Cheerleaders	6th	6th
Vipul & Arti	Married	10th	11th
Bilal & Sa'eed	Best Friends	12th 1

It's not a DOUBLE LENGTH LEG and it is a Double Elimination leg Instead! I do not want to see this type of board like that when the next time was posted. it will be like that. Season 15 would be the same (except that 1 team, not 2, was eliminated). Thank You and i hope you have a good time watching. (Singaporeandy (talk) 12:07, 14 February 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Leg 1 First Elimination Point

Look the placements at the mid-point are completely unnecessary as it wasn't a pit stop so much as a suprise elimination. It was the same as any other "grab a departure time" route marker except it had a twist. Adding this is a pedantic edit and should be undone unless you want the page to look messy and have results for "who got to each clue box first" 93.96.23.89 (talk) 02:48, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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