Talk:The Adventures of Jo, Zette and Jocko

I've removed the Tintin characters template from the bottom of this page and removed the reference in it to J,Z&J. I've laso removed the Category:Tintin characters. Although there are some subtle crossover refernces (confined entirely to the J,Z&J books) J,Z&J are not Tintin characters. They never appeared in any of the Tintin books. Joe King 09:50, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

A few notes…

In re: the unfinished book, much of the information given here appears to have been based on my article on the presentation made by M. Bernard Tordeur at a conference at Greenwich, held to be part of the Tintin at Sea exhibition. This article can be found on the tintinologist.org site here:

http://www.tintinologist.org/articles/conference2004.html

together with the forum discussion already cited as reference [2]. The report that the book is substantially complete and in the archive came from M. Tordeur at this event, and so should also be cited at [2], as it says “citation needed” at the moment.

If further information or reference is needed for Hergé setting Bob de Moor to re-vamp the Greg script as a Jo, Zette and Jocko album, then readers should be directed to the biography Bob de Moor: 40 ans de bandes dessinées, 35 ans aux côtés d'Hergé, (Bernard Tordeur and Pierre-Yves Bourdil, Lombard, 1986), which shows examples of his pencil work, research and notes for the revised story.

The word used in the title should be rendered as “ThermoZéro” - it is always written with a capital in the middle, both in the text of the biography, and on the sample work included in it.

It also is slightly misleading to say that Hergé didn’t work with the script as a Tintin story because he wanted to retain sole creative control; while that is probably an aspect of it, he actually said that he found it too restrictive upon him to work from someone else’s script: he was used to making up his stories as he went along, and never worked from a complete script for any of the other books (the state of Alph-Art demonstrates this - he roughed out pages, and made notes, but hadn’t a complete plan of the album). Another story related to this is that it is often said that Hergé found the “ThermoZéro” script sub-par: this wasn’t the case, and in fact he said it was a good story, hence his idea that it could be adapted by Bob de Moor for Jo, Zette & Jocko. Jock123 (talk) 18:45, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I remember reading The Secret Ray when I was a kid, and vaguely recall the story and some scenes (it was published much earlier in Sweden than in the UK). It's a good yarn but you can tell it's episodic, like you said he diun't map out his stories (here, as opposed to some of the Tintin albums) very tightly in advance, and I think I felt somehow even back then that in this one the author wasn't too sure where the story was going at every point. Things seemed to happen very abruptly. The mad professor, his robot and ray gun which imparts epileptic fits in people were very cool though! Strausszek (talk) 20:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Monkey?

Jocko is not a monkey. From the looks of him he is a chimpanzee. Monkeys have tails, apes do not. Herge and his readership may not have been aware of this subtle biological distinction, yet I feel it is incumbent upon the authors of an ostensibly objective encyclopedia to adhere to the facts.Pooneil (talk) 05:35, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Original dates?

The table gives the publication dates for the collected editions in the 1950s.

Further down in the Publication section, we see the original stories were serialised in Cœurs Vaillants between 19 January 1936 and June 1937. Was that all five volumes or just the Secret Ray? seems a short period for five books worth of strips. This could be clarified, and if anyone finds firm dates for the original publication of strips comprising each book, should be added to the table.

The Publication paragraph also states the original serialised strips were in a slightly different format. I imagine the versions we know from the books were redrawn and colourised, just like all the Tintin adventures from the 1950s. If anyone has more info that could be added. Were any sequences dropped or altered for the 1950s volume, as we known was done with some of the early Tintin adventures?

also, in the Background paragraph there is a hyperlink for L'Extraordinaire Aventure de Flup, Nénesse, Poussette et Cochonnet that just leads to the Quik and Flupke page, basically the exact same text. it should probably lead directly to this section in the Minor comics by Hergé page: Nénesse, Poussette and Piglet

J Edward Malone (talk) 17:06, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Family curiosity

I am trying to uncover who the Cnaepelinckx are in the books and in real life...please, any and all help is needed.cthank you and be well. Jean-paul huskens 2603:9008:1409:40F:E56E:C171:E15:60E1 (talk) 12:19, 1 December 2022 (UTC)