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WP:LISTCRUFT

Much of the article is just a list. A writeup of the notable cast should be sufficient. - Windows72106 (talk) 05:43, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You did the same thing to Eat Bulaga, which is highly questionable. Your edits are highly disruptive as you should be discussing these major changes first before you proceed. A cast list isn't fancruft IF its only mentioning regular cast members. Some cast list became so huge that sometimes they warrant their own Wikipedia article. So I suggest you wait for a consensus first on the talk page before you make drastic edits. Removing an entire cast list is a drastic change. Please read manual of style. Removing an entire cast section which mostly mentions regular cast members is Wrong.TheHotwiki (talk) 07:15, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, Hotwiki. Noticeably, you remove the alphabetical list with the years displayed in each members' name. I've also seen the list of hosts and its guests on GMA Supershow and they've mentioned the years for some of them. Best if I can restore the alphabetical list to mitigate confusion and clutter without displaying the years. Talking about the sources. Bear with me. I communicated constantly with the members of That's Entertainment (most of them became my friends) through social media platforms. Most of them have Facebook accounts and they were part of the group community page on Facebook. I only gathered information from them. Don't ask me for a gargantuan task to locate sources publicly and on Google. Thank you. Raymarcbadz (talk) 12:15, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The entire cast section is looking fansite content. DON'T restore the alphabetical order as there's already a day to day cast list which makes the alphabetical order cast list redundant. It was removed for a reason. Restore it back and I'll report this article for fancrupt content. And I don't care if you communicated with the show's cast members. Learn to follow the simple Wikipedia rule of posting credible references which you seem to forget. You've been TOLD MANY TIMES to follow the rules and you keep ignoring it.TheHotwiki (talk) 13:13, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As for GMA Supershow, it doesn't have overtly detailed cast section compare to this. There's only 1 list, not TWO. You are comparing oranges to apples.TheHotwiki (talk) 13:16, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hotwiki: Wow. First and foremost, do you KNOW the members of the show? Have you ever watched THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT? I cited references and follow simple Wikipedia rules before. What else do you want to do for this article? Do you want REFERENCES to be cited for each member? If you think that you don't care about the members, then why do we have to create a list? Remember this article is not only for the users but also for the former members who became part of the show. Some of them were able to check the article. Thank you. Raymarcbadz (talk) 15:37, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Post a reference. No one cares if you watch this show, this article is not about your experience and knowledge about the show. If I send this to peer review, or If I report this to administrators, you would be questioned for your countless unreferenced edits in this article. And yes, please post a reference to every cast member. As for the cast list, there's no need for two massive lists (one that is alphabetical and one is arranged through days). This is Wikipedia, not TV Guide. TheHotwiki (talk) 16:40, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you have to do this? Is this MANDATORY? Are you controlling this article? And you said, "No one cares." Wow. You made this list so IRRELEVANT and WORTHLESS because of your derogatory and harsh remarks towards the user who strived to research for the members' names over the years. Do you know how difficult to retrieve credible sources about the members? We have a link already on IMDB and then you would ask me for an exact reference of each member. If you report this to administrators, you will be responsible for your actions against the knowledge of mine and others. Raymarcbadz (talk) 17:04, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

When I said, no one cares if you watch the show, it means its NOT A REQUIREMENT to watch the show to be able to edit this article and just because you watched the show, it DOESN'T exclude you for not posting references in the article for the show that you watched. I question your editing skills as posting references is Wikipedia 101. A lot of your edits are based on original research, original research isn't allowed in this site. If you're goingto make such massive cast section, you should back them all up with reliable sources. Also, you are unaware that IMDb isn't advised to be used as a reference in Wikipedia articles. Read the manual of style.TheHotwiki (talk) 20:01, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Original research

The original research template for the article was removed when MAJORITY of the article is still unreferenced. Now, I'm asking for the editor who removed it to NOT do it again. I'm also removing unreferenced cast members.TheHotwiki (talk) 21:56, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am still adding the references for the other members. Why can’t you wait and let me finish adding the references? You kept on controlling the article and you disrespected my edits. When someone puts fictitious names or personalities on the list, you are satisfied and enjoyable. When I took over four months ago to repair the list and add factual names, you questioned and harassed me. I have been editing this article for more than a decade, attempting to collect a hundred names of That’s Entertainment members. Then, you will control this article and remove my unnecessary edits at your own convenience. Then, you will bully me and state negative remarks on my edits. How dare you? Honestly, you curtailed my freedom and wisdom to edit this article. Raymarcbadz (talk) 03:35, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stop removing the original research tag especially you just added back your unreferenced edits. I'm not going to wait until you added references. This isn't your article and I've told you a long time ago to back up every cast member a reference. And don't split cast members through the day assignment, its fancruft material. Just arrange them alphabetically. TheHotwiki (talk) 10:16, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I don't own an article, but I've contributed this for more than a decade. I already added the references. Can't you be PATIENT at all times? I have other things to accomplish. This is in progress. You become more demanding to fix this article. Raymarcbadz (talk) 10:20, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Scenario: What if a former That's Entertainment star visits the article and his or her name is not listed? Would you require him or her to have a reference and then be included in the list? Raymarcbadz (talk) 10:42, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Follow Wikipedia guidelines, it is simple as that. TheHotwiki (talk) 10:50, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In this case, will you inform him or her to follow the guidelines? I think you want to semi-protect this article so that users will restrict the editing. Raymarcbadz (talk) 10:59, 6 September 2020 (UTC

It is not my duty to inform people to add references in Wikipedia. You can ask the moderators to semi protect the article for persistent original research and unreferenced edits.TheHotwiki (talk) 11:06, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You will be the user to do this because you are responsible for your actions in refixing this article. HOW DARE YOU? I'M PISSED AND DISAPPOINTED ALREADY. Thank you for defeating my purpose to edit this article. Raymarcbadz (talk) 11:07, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unreferenced section

@Raymarcbadz:, please don't remove the unreferenced section tag in the Segments section, until you've added references to the section.TheHotwiki (talk) 12:56, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Finale

@Raymarcbadz: Do you have a source for the finale date? Stop changing it as the reference in the article clearly stated that it ended on May 3. One more revert, and I'll report you for disruptive editing and original research.TheHotwiki (talk) 15:22, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. Someone just reported to me for the exact finale date through social media. Raymarcbadz (talk) 17:15, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And how do you know that "someone from social media" is reliable. Its another example of original research - which isn't allowed in Wikipedia.TheHotwiki (talk) 17:21, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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