Talk:Tharsis (video game)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 19:33, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria - ✓ Pass Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:03, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
• It contains copyright infringements - cooydetector is down, but I couldn't find any manually. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:03, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). - ✓ Pass Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:03, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. - ✓ Pass Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:03, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Links

Prose

Lede

• A turn-based game played using simulated virtual dice, the player controls four astronauts who must remain alive long enough - surely that's a given? I feel the details of the gameplay should be worded better in the lede. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:44, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Done Rewrote the lede._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 07:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

• Lede is very short? No info on development? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:45, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Done Added development info.._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 07:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

• Where was it released? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:00, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Done Added "worldwide"._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 07:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

• The caption in the infobox could do with a little more explanation. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:00, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Done Just removed it._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 07:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

General

• Could we get some altext for the images? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:02, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Done Added alt text._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 07:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

• Ledes are a summary of the rest of the prose. Every claim needs to also exist and cited in the prose. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:06, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Done Lede was rewritten._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 07:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

• Prose needs reordering. Gameplay in particular just starts talking about dice rolls and repair numbers without ever mentioning them earlier in the article. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:08, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Done Hopefully this was addressed._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 07:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

• The caption for the first image doesn't explain anything to someone not familiar with the game. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:09, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Done Rewrote caption._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 07:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

• Some completely uncited material in here. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:11, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Done Removed uncited material._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 07:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

• Article needs general spelling/grammar copyedit. Things like "Stasis, Injury and Void" aren't proper nouns. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:12, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Done Removed/made lowercase._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 07:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

• The gameplay section borders on WP:GAMEGUIDE. It should be much more general, we should discuss strategies or anything like this. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:13, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Done Shortened section a lot._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 07:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

• Reception needs some work. We don't usually put scores in the prose when we have them in the table as well. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:27, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Notes & References

• Some unreliable sources here... YouTube, Twitter, Softpedia is a situational source Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:42, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

•  DoneI replaced the Twitter source with a primary source from their own website. Youtube may be the only place that interview is located though. Softpedia is situational but can easily be removed if you find it is not reliable, there are plenty of other reviews._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 20:06, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

• Can we archive some sources? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:42, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Done Sources archived by User:Jovanmilic97._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 05:39, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

• Big reliance on source 1...Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:42, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Done I removed some of the unnecessary citations of source 1 and added another source for the gameplay info. A lot of the gameplay info is repeated in multiple reviews._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 20:06, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments

• Automated note - If you fancy returning the favour, I have outstanding GA nominations that require reviewing at WP:GAN. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these, however it's definately not manditory. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}
  • If you could do a little work on the reception section Zxcvbnm, (remove the scores), then I'll be happy to support. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:32, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
    • @Lee Vilenski: Alright, done editing the scores out._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:49, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.