Talk:Thankful Villages

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Addition

Added the village of Minting, Lincolnshire to the list of recognised Thankful Villages —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.172.185.126 (talk) 13:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

War memorial

I have removed "A thankful village therefore does not have a war memorial."
Some Thankful Villages do have war memorials:-

To commemorate losses in other wars e.g. WWII - (Thankful Villages only relate to deaths in WWI)
To remember the dead in other places
To give thanks for how lucky they were
Arjayay (talk) 17:02, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hunstanworth

Editors have been adding Hunstanworth to the list, and amending the number of towns from 51 to 52
The statement currently is
"In their November 2010 update to their Thankful Village website, Norman Thorpe, Tom Morgan and Rod Morris have identified 51 parishes in England and Wales from which all soldiers returned."
At risk of a copyvio, the exact statement on the Thorpe/Morgan/Morris page cited is "the only villages with a clear claim to "Thankfulness" are the 51 villages given in List One."
Please do not edit this statement to say Thorpe/Morgan/Morris have identified 52, as they clearly state 51

Hunstanworth is not mentioned on the Thorpe/Morgan/Morris page at all, even in lists 2, 3 or 4.
That is not to say Hunstanworth should not be added to the page, provided a reliable source can be cited, and the number of towns in the Thorpe/Morgan/Morris list is not altered. This was previously done when the list was 49, but there were reliable sources for Herbrandston and East Norton (see old page [1])
Arjayay (talk) 18:29, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Thorpe/Morgan/Morris list has been updated yet again, and now includes Hunstanworth, as User:Gsmctrm has recently added.
Arjayay (talk) 18:18, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scotland

England and Wales, but no Scotland? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.201.189.117 (talk) 01:18, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fair question - Both Arthur Mee's original article, and the current Hellfire Corner site, also only cover England & Wales. Is there any published research on the position in Scotland? Or Ireland for that matter?
Bearing in mind Wikipedia's stance on Original Research we need a Reliable Source before we can include any statements about the overall picture in Scotland or Ireland, but that would not preclude an individual village with a reliable source being included.
Arjayay (talk) 16:32, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Which countries?

I have a suggestion. We should concentrate on including Irish and Scottish villages, and leave France out of this article altogether, at least for now. It is obviously less well documented (in sources in English) and a completely different case, since considerable fighting took place on French soil. There is no "thankful village" counterpart on French WP, just a translation of this article. There is an article on war memorials, but this is a different topic, and many places decided not to erect war memorials for other reasons. A principle source for this article mentions France, but I don't think that means it has to be included. It loses the point of the article. Tony Holkham (Talk) 10:01, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

French list of communes without war memorials

There's a list on French Wikipedia of communes without war memorials (at fr:Liste des communes de France sans monument aux morts), mentioned in passing in this (not very helpful) edit. May be worth including in the French section somehow. ‑‑Yodin^T 11:39, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I can't access this reference (can anyone?), from which a translation has been made, so it is not useful. A commune in France does not equate to a village; this is one reason I am suggesting (above) not including France in the article. There is too little to go on, and the concept of "thankful village" does not exist in France, so far as I can see. If we included France, then why not other countries involved in the conflict(s)? The only other mention of the uniqueness of Thierville is an article about Upper Slaughter here, which mentions it very briefly in passing. I still think France should be dropped from the article. Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:54, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]