Talk:Texas Woman's University/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Question #2

so this is like carlow college in that it is "women centered" and doesn't actually discriminate against men? i assume the fact they've left the word "woman's" in the title is the reason why there aren't too many men attending? that and the fact that more women go to college than men. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.162.167.184 (talk) 16:49, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

'Woman's' is left in for the historical purpose. It is to recognize the historical roots of the college.

On another note, in the alumni section, I have deleted the people who did not obtain degrees from TWU. 'Alumni' refers to people who had graduated with a degree from an institution. Thanks. PioneerGrrrl —Preceding unsigned comment added by PioneerGrrrl (talk • contribs) 14:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

yes i saw them too for some bizarre reason... even though the university specifically lays out it's policy who is allowed to be considered an alumni, people think it's 'funny' to spam the page with Helen Gurley Brown and Vara Martin Daniel. The school's very explicit that only people who have completed degrees are alumni. The form doesn't permit people who just took courses.

^[1] GloriaCobain (talk) 05:39, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

With your edit here you claim people are lying about Helen Gurley Brown. That seems a bit odd since nobody I've noticed is claiming she graduated from Texas Woman's University. When I initially added her to the Alumni section I did so using the "former student" definition. As I mentioned in another section, this definition can be found in multiple sources: Dictionary.com entry, Merriam-Webster, Wiktionary, Collins, Macmillan, Britannica. There are more but that is probably enough. Rockfang (talk) 02:45, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

I also want to learn further here. Please give me suggestions what is better for me.. Shraddha kharel (talk) 05:19, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

References

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Meaning of alumni/alumnus

With regards to the discussion above, you don't have to graduate from a school to be an alumnus of it. Dictionary.com entry, Merriam-Webster entry. I've readded an entry regarding Helen Gurley Brown.--Rockfang (talk) 03:56, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, you do. An honorary degree is not the same as alumni status. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.253.94.228 (talk) 00:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I should have clarified my statement. I meant to say that a person can attend a school for only one semester and still be an alumnus. I did not mean for my comment to be regarding honorary degrees.--Rockfang (talk) 01:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

No, this is not being an 'alumni'. Alumni means having completed a degree from an institution--not taken a course. This university's alumni association only recognizes alumni as those who graduated from the institution http://www.twu.edu/alumni/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.253.92.123 (talk) 02:21, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

This specific University is clear that you do have to graduate in order to be an alumni. Their alumni form asks for the specific year you graduated and what degree you earned. You cannot submit it without providing information about an earned degree. GloriaCobain (talk)

https://form.jotform.com/202816398121151 — Preceding unsigned comment added by GloriaCobain (talk • contribs) 04:38, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

The traditional limitation of "alumnus" (and variants) to actual graduates still pertains. A more appropriate category for the people mentioned by Rockfang would be something like "Former students," with an explanatory note for editors in the source code to explain the difference. That is, the explanatory note would have wiki markup such that it only became visible when one uses the editing tools, and the note would explain that only degree recipients should be listed under "alumni," while others would be added under "former students" instead. Lawikitejana (talk) 16:34, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't know how 'former student' is going to apply since the university doesn't let people sign up for membership with them unless they have a degree. Maybe it does seem 'unfair' etc but it does distinguish who completed the degree from the school. There isn't guessing. GloriaCobain (talk) 05:21, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

I think a separate "Former student" section could be a good compromise. I'm open to that. Rockfang (talk) 02:47, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm afraid that the definitions of "alumnus" given in this (bizarrely stretched out discussion with comments being added many years apart) isn't the one that is most widespread. It's not commonly used to refer to former students, not just graduates. I suspect - but don't know - that this broader definition than what some people believe is strongly liked to fundraising as a broader definition lets institutions ask for money and associate themselves with many more people. If this specific institution has a more narrow or different definition then that might be worth noting in the article but we don't allow subjects to control their own articles so the definition would not really apply for our work in this project. ElKevbo (talk) 06:01, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Though I suspect you might have a couple slightly confusing typos in your reply, I believe I agree with you. I believe using alumnus (and variants) for former students is used more often than some people might think. If it was only rarely used I don't think so many dictionaries would list it as a definition: Dictionary.com entry, Merriam-Webster, Wiktionary, Collins, Macmillan, Britannica. Rockfang (talk) 02:52, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Original Name

In Don DeLillo's novel Libra, he mentions that the original name for TWU was "Texas Industrial Institute and College for the Education of White Girls of the State of Texas in the Arts and Sciences". I did some searching to corroborate this and it appears this was indeed the original name upon the school's founding: see here and here. I didn't add it to the article because I'm not sure how to properly cite the sources, but it seems to me this information should be included in the article's "History" section. I suspect there might be some reluctance to mention the name, for obvious reasons, but I do believe it is important for an encyclopedic source to report the facts as they happened. Westknife (talk) 14:20, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

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