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Requested move 5 November 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed and primary sources are fine when no one else is bringing up any sources at all. Jenks24 (talk) 11:17, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Terry Fox Hall of Fame → Canadian Disability Hall of Fame – In 2009, the Terry Fox Hall of Fame was renamed to the Canadian Disability Hall of Fame. Previous inductees before 2009 match the Canadian Disability Hall of Fame's website but I haven't found strong sources that indicate that the hall of fame was renamed except for here and here MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:41, 5 November 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 00:44, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: No relevant evidence yet. The official name doesn't count for much. Nom has provided only three sources, two of which are primary sources, and the third gives both names. Andrewa (talk) 00:42, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion

I've just found a newsletter from the Canadian Foundation for Physically Disabled Persons who is in charge of the Canadian Disability Hall of Fame that states the renaming on page 21. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:35, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- That seems to be another primary source, is it not? Please read that page and also WP:AT if you have not already done so, and wp:official names would be of use too. I'm guessing you do not have a good grasp of the principles on which the choice of Wikipedia article names is based. Andrewa (talk) 02:05, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  - That is not the reason why I have asked for a consensus. I have asked because I was not sure which option would be feasable: 1) renaming the article 2) having a redirect from or to the current name or 3) having a section in the article that notes the current name with the 2009 inductees onwards. For example, Rick Mercer was inducted in 2015 under the Canadian Disability Hall of Fame name. If people were to look it up inductes from 2010 onwards, where should this information exist? In the old article or a separate article with the 2010 inductees onwards? Plus the inductees from 2010 onwards are currently not in the Terry Fox Hall of Fame article either. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:27, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    - I'm a bit confused. Note that Wikipedia:Requested moves#Commenting in a requested move says in part Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change. This is I take it not the case here, you want other opinions and have avoided taking any view yourself. You are involved in The Wikipedia Library and have proposed this move to test the water on the title and also on related matters, such as a possible article split. I'm not at all sure how to best progress this. It seems out-of-process as that's not the way RMs are supposed to work at all, and in any case a miserable failure as so far there has been no participation at all.
    - But be not afraid, this is just a minor hickup in our mutual quest to build an encyclopedia, and we will get there. Andrewa (talk) 10:37, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      - While I supported the name change originally when I requested at the start, I asked to be sure in case others disagreed which has been seen here. It's better to ask first than to not ask. Based on your comments and lack of participation it's given me doubt. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:58, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
        And I do not want to disparage this in any way! There are IMO no stupid questions, just stupid decisions based on a previous stupid decision not to ask a relevant question just because it sounded stupid. But I'm still not sure where to take this. We're both of two minds and nobody else seems to care. Maybe invoke Andrew's Principle? Andrewa (talk) 04:29, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Terminology

Some of the terminology used in the recent recipients lists need to be explained - "Builder" and "Achiever". I'm quite sure that in this context "builder" does not refer to carpenters and bricklayers. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:30, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]