Talk:Terror Against Terror

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Terrorist org?

Should it be called a terrorist organization in the lead? It honestly says it on the tin. But there is at least one scholar who is doubtful, mainly because they are just so bad at it:^[1]

The attacks most closely connected to Kach were carried out by American-born JDL members, many of which ended in failure (UN Spec. Comm. Report, 1984). Generally against strategically unimportant targets, they primarily attacked Palestinians in acts often reflecting more traditional notions of hate crime than terrorism. Finally, they appear to have been carried out largely independently of the wider organisation.

Of course she is characterizing Kach here, not TNT -- I don't know if she'd look at TNT specifically and say something like "Oh in that case they're definitely terrorists." That paper is interesting though because they do, or plan to do, or (usually) fail to do a lot of other, bigger stuff. Anyway, I don't usually like too much wiki-voice moralizing, but in this case I think some general statements are pretty justifiable if other editors agree. SamuelRiv (talk) 07:37, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Marsden, Sarah Victoria (2013-11-30). How terrorism ends: understanding the outcomes of violent political contestation (PDF) (Ph.D. thesis). hdl:10023/3970. Retrieved 2022-07-17.

SamuelRiv (talk) 07:37, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

changed description

I'm new and hope I didn't break any rules, but I reclassified as "militant organization" as it doesn't seem to be designated terrorist by any international body, and not sure their self description would carry any weight in a legal sense. I did so in keeping with the standard applied to other violent militant groups on wiki commonly referred to as "terrorist". MoshiachNow (talk) 01:04, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Things are a little bit different when groups call themselves terrorists. Iskandar323 (talk) 08:48, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Iskandar323 Perhaps. It doesn't appear in here tho. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_groups?wprov=sfla1 MoshiachNow (talk) 02:59, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Marsden, Sarah Victoria (2013-11-30). How terrorism ends: understanding the outcomes of violent political contestation (PDF) (Ph.D. thesis). hdl:10023/3970. Retrieved 2022-07-17.

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