Talk:Teleportation in fiction

Missing Charlie

In the chocolate factory - Mike Teavee teleports himself through a teleportation device which has the side effect of shrinking, necessitating a trip through the gum stretcher to restore his height (though he is grossly disfigured as a result) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.234.110.47 (talk) 08:39, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Origin

This page was created using the content in this revision. It was removed in the main article Teleportation, but teleportation in fiction deserves its own page. emijrp (talk) 11:51, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

correction. The article was originally at List of fiction containing teleportation [1] before being redirected in June 2011. That article was created on May 2007 with the message "article spun off from teleportation main article". It significantly increased in size afterwards. Dream Focus 10:43, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Merge back to Teleportation?

Is there any opposition to merging this back into Teleportation? Skippydo (talk) 20:39, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

• Please discuss first. The AfD was closed as keep with what I read as a rejection of merging. That conclusion can be overcome with a sufficient consensus. BRD would be extra careless here: the edit histories are tangled, and merging back creates a loop, making it even worse. Flatscan (talk) 04:45, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose The main article is about teleportation. This is just about how many times its been used in notable fiction. They don't belong together. You can't stick an article of this size into another article without massive trimming which is the same as deletion, which the majority of the AFD audience was clearly against. Dream Focus 06:04, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
• In its present state the list can't be merged back with the teleportation article. It needs some serious cleanup. It's not quite at Blow it up and start over but it's close. At present there are nearly 90 low quality entries. I've been mulling over ways to fix this that would also have the support of editors. By "high quality" I mean that secondary sources had written in detail about the treatment or use of teleportation in a specific work or series. For example, an easy list item to bring up to snuff is the one for the Star Trek Transporter as it mentions a source reference we can use here. --Marc Kupper|talk 08:11, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Notability affects the subject of the article, not the content. Having a list as complete is possible is important. Teleportation found in notable works of fiction. Dream Focus 14:45, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. What about replacing the Teleportation page with the disambig? I don't see anything in the Teleportation article that is not also here. Skippydo (talk) 19:37, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

A disambig wouldn't make any sense. You have to have more than two articles for that to happen. And there is some scientific research into theoretical ways to make teleportation possible, so someone could add that one day. Whatever notable scientists say about it. Someone has seemed to have copied the information from teleportation over here where it doesn't belong. I'm removing that now. Dream Focus 19:41, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

The two articles would be Quantum teleportation and fictional teleportation. The teleportation article contains only information about the fictional version. The two are unrelated. If the Teleportation article is left as is, someone will eventually try to add a misinterpretation of quantum teleportation, this is why I'm trying to avoid by proposing a well-defined division between fictional teleportation and quantum teleportation. Skippydo (talk) 21:34, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Moving something from one place to another instantly, is teleportation. It doesn't need to "transport the system itself" nor does it need to rearrange "particles to copy the form of an object." It is just teleporting information, but that means something is made and sent somehow doesn't it? The particle being sent is teleported if not transported. Dream Focus 22:06, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Under your definition, quantum teleportation is not teleportation, since it's bounded by the speed of light. Regardless, do you agree that if quantum teleportation and fictional teleportation are totally unrelated, then there should be a well-defined division, ie. teleportation becomes a disambig? Skippydo (talk) 22:38, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Ifs it not teleportation, then what are the chances of someone searching for it and finding the teleportation page by mistake? That doesn't make any sense. Dream Focus 22:52, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand what you're asking or if it's meant to address my question. My question is essentially, should Teleportation be like Group, a disambig page or like Energy, where fictional teleportation is the main article. My concern is that without a division, people will (continue to) attempt something analogous to combining Energy_(esotericism) and Energy into a since article. Skippydo (talk) 23:07, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose Currently this article is a list in need of clean-up with the making of an article kind of slid on top. The best thing to do, IMHO, would be to focus on making the teleportation article represent the topic as a whole, for now at least, and cleaning up this list and turning it into a sortable list. A lot of the entries here have very weak ties to the topic, which weakens it, but that can be fixed. Someoneanother 19:59, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Gene Roddenberry's Earth - Final Conflict

I haven't seen the series in ages but I seem to remember there being a new human-invented technology utilized in one or two episodes (something that the aliens thought impossible) that made instantaneous teleportation quite real. It had something to do with quantum-level manipulation of matter. The aliens themselves used some sort of fast transport system (that wasn't strictly teleportation). --Khokkanen (talk) 12:53, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Stranger in a Strange Land (not!)

I have deleted this section (quoted below). Smith thinks of this ability as giving "the tiny twist that causes to topple away". It is not teleportation, as the affected thing or person doesn't appear anywhere else: it is gone for good. At one point another character asks Smith to bring back the thing that he has just disappeared; he replies that that is impossible, as it no longer exists.

In the novel Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein, the main character, Valentine Michael Smith, is able to make objects and people disappear.

--Thnidu (talk) 03:09, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

December 2017 suggested merge

Interstellar teleporter is essentially an overlapping list and ought to be merged here. If need be, we can set up sections in this article to segregate interdimensional, intergalactic, interplanetary, and intercity variants. How are the Time machine articles organized? Might be a useful model. --Wtshymanski (talk) 21:47, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Apparition in the Harry Potter universe

I mean, isn’t it the same thing? Apparition and http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Apparition ? Shouldn't it be at least mentioned here? Ceplm (talk) 17:32, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Focus and readability

I made a few notes while responding to the copy edit tag on the article:

• The fourth paragraph of the first section mentions works of fiction in which remote copies of a person are made. This does not seem to fit within the scope of teleportation – it sends information (to make a copy) but not matter or energy.
• Should travel to the same place in another dimension be considered teleportation? It does not seem to fit the definition (moving from one place to another without traversing the space between) since there is no difference in the physical location.
• I tagged this article with {{Example farm}}. I feel that it should summarize various aspects of time travel in fiction, and have a separate list. As an example, see Time travel in fiction and List of time travel works of fiction. The main article should only mention the most notable examples in how they influenced the genre. Listing every cartoon, comic book or video game that ever had teleportation seems ridiculous.
• Try to avoid repetition when listing by format, like having The Fly in both literature and film. List the original release or the most popular, but not both. Similarly, I feel the comic book characters should be in comics and not film or television.

Reidgreg (talk) 19:30, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

• • • This article is doomed unless someone can find anyone writing in a scholarly way about teleportation in fiction. I would support a deletion nomination. --Wtshymanski (talk) 18:55, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

55kg?

fascinated by this seemingly random number. has it appeared in a known/cited discussion of teleportation? seems a bit less massive than an average human.

duncanrmi (talk) 07:47, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

I would be thrilled down to my socks ( which are in the next room) to read a scholarly discussion of teleportation in fiction. It's of the right order of magnitude, and since teleportation isn't real anyway, it hardly matters what the exact value is. Do we know Sherlock Holmes' hat size? The diameter of the Round Table? This article would be more honest if it were titled "List of stories about teleportation" and we eliminated all the interpretation, synthesis, and original research. Wikipedia often has a hard time distinguishing between reality and fiction. --Wtshymanski (talk) 20:05, 26 July 2021 (UTC)