Talk:Tekle Hawariat Tekle Mariyam

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Tekle Hawariat Tekle Mariyam began studies in Russia only in 1901, he was only one of 30-40 Ethiopian cadets of being to a trening position in Russia in obedience to the intergovernmental agreement with Menilik II. He could not arrive to Russia jointly with Leontiev (Leontiev delivered other boy)! But I can to tell, as there is an interesting fact, as Ivan Grave was professor for the Ethiopian cadet Tekle Hawariat. In 1916, in Mikhailovskaya Artillery Military Academy, Ivan Grave invented a missile powered by smokeless powder and launched from mobile launchers, and first experiments of primitive a liquid-fueled rockets (Robert Goddard did the experiments later), and therefore he is also known as father of Katyusha. Also Leontiev could not be the member of mission of red cross because he headed the team of the Russian military advisers and volunteers of taking direct part in war in composition the Ethiopian army! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.122.17.48 (talk) 20:15, 10 July 2011 (UTC) - I think, even an ignorant people can read the list of the Russian mission of red cross, in the book of member of mission of red cross of Alexander Bulatovich. Count Abai or Nilolai Leontiev could not to be member of mission of red cross! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.100.8.212 (talk) 10:04, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

According to Bahru Zewde, Leontiev escorted Tekle Hawariat Tekle Mariyam back to Russia, & Leontiev was part of the Russian Red Cross mission to Ethiopia. (Read his book; he explains it very clearly.) From every account I have read, the Imperial Russian military presence in Ethiopia consisted of two or three officers (Bulatovich was one of these), & a small team to train the Ethiopian army in the use of mountain artillery guns the Russians had provided; otherwise, the Russians played a negligible role in the First Italo-Abyssinian War. (And they definitely did not provide the Ethiopians with rockets to use.) Unless you can provide concrete -- & verifiable -- proof to the contrary, that is what happened. Until then, stop rewriting articles to reflect your own idiosyncratic beliefs. -- llywrch (talk) 06:51, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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I removed this text becausei couldn't find Tekle Hawariat name in the article but it's probably refers to Takla Haymanot in the webarchived source. I haven't found other sources that supports that he befriended/met princess Volkonsky, other reliable sources say he was adopted by a grandson of Volkonsky, Malihanoff.

text; He arrived to Saint Petersburg in 1901, where he studied artillery at the Saint Petersburg military academy, achieving the rank of colonel. He was befriended by a number of prominent Russian liberals of the day, including Princess Volkonsky, daughter of the famous Decembrist revolutionary Sergei Volkonsky, and spent altogether 17 years in Russia.

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Japanizer? Which isn't explained and leads to Japan? -LlywelynII (talk) 06:37, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

A school of thought in 1930s Ethiopia that they should use Japan as a model to achieve modernization. Yes, more should be written but I took a WikiBreak shortly after writing this article & haven't had the time to go back & do the work. -- llywrch (talk) 16:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

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Tekle Hawariat became famous as provincial governor, agronomist, and for his part in writing Ethiopia's first constitution. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 08:23, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

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Bahru Zewde believes the reason for this brief tenure was due to his efforts to make the office efficient and responsible, which led to inevitable conflicts not only with traditional-minded ministers, but with the Emperor himself who did not care to make a distinction between the public purse and the private accounts of the emperor. "Given the acrimonious relations with the palace," notes Bahru Zewde, "it is not much of a surprise that Takla-Hawaryat next found himself posted as Ethiopian minister to London, Paris, and Geneva."

so although he could have been chosen for these duties because of his qualifications,Bahru Zewde insists "the evidence is too strong for this being more a case of removing from centre stage a character who was too independent and self-willed for the emperor's taste.

Paul Henze credits Tekle Hawariat with introducing to Haile Selassie to the three Habtewold brothers -- Makonnen Habte-Wold, Aklilu Habte-Wold, and Akalework Habte-Wold—who became prominent in Ethiopian political life. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 23:49, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

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Princess Elena Volkonsky raised Tekle Hawariat, because he was adopted by her oldest son Colonel Manchanov, who never married. Tekle Hawariat considered her his grandmother and has stated this in his biography. Tekle Hawariat loved Russia and his Russian family. He kept in touch with them even after the Russian Revolution. One of his aunts took refuge in Ethiopia and stayed with the Tekle Hawariat family in Hirna, where he was Governor of Chercher. All this information is in his biography that was published in Amahric. Also in this autobiography is the only published eyewitness account of the death of Emperor Haile Selassie's mother, Woizero Yeshimebet Ali, in childbirth.

Tekle Hawariat's biography has been published in Amharic by the University of Addis Ababa.

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and hold the office until 1935.

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