Talk:Teiglach

Translation

The following discussion was added to the article on 5 August 2007 by User:76.197.207.162:

Actually, the root of the word teiglach is teig, meaning dough. "Lach" is the Yiddish suffix that indicates plural. So, a plateful of these confections is a plate of "teiglach," while a single one is a "teigle." The same holds true for the more commonly known dessert called "ruglach" (often mispronounced in the U.S. as roogalla). A single one of these horn-shaped pastries is called a "ruggle"; "ruglach" is the plural form of the word.

I don't know which is correct, so I moved this here and added the dubious tag. --Mrwojo 05:20, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello, I am not a linguist, but at least as far as I understand, then there are some several varieties of plural endings ( or other forms, for that matter, as pluralization in Yiddish may affect other parts in the pronunciation of a given word, aside of its ending ) in Yiddish, as well as several affix varieties for the construction of diminutive forms ; these may also vary, according to region, dialect, period, e.t.c. ( as one could list three major dialectical varieties for the Yiddish of Western Europe, two for areas which border between Western and Eastern Europe, and three for Eastern Europe, as well many other smaller divisions, or distinctions, e.t.c. ) ;

However :

Yiddish Suffixes such as -L, -EL, -ƎL, -ELE, -ƎLE, -ÄLE, are some of the forms which can be found in that language, usually for the purpose of denoting a diminutive form ( although that there are also others, such as : -KE, -KƎ, -KL, -KELE, -KÄLE, -KƎLE, -TSIK, -TSKI, -TSƎK, -TSKƎ, -CHIK, -CHKI, -CHKƎ, -CHƎK, -JICHKƎL, -JICHKELE, -JICHKÄLE, -JICHKƎLE, and so on, since there are others ), and on occasion they may also be used for expressing affection ( all of the above may refer to singular forms of words ; however, plural forms are quite often different ).

The Yiddish word for dough may also vary, but three of the forms which might be more commonly encountered, at least on the Yiddish dialects of Eastern Europe, are : TAJG, TEJG, and TOJG.

Their diminutive forms might include the following : TEJGL, TAJGL, TEJGƎL, TAJGƎL, TEJGƎLE, TAJGƎLE amongst others ( all of the aforementioned ones are given in their singular forms ).

Furtherly to that , then one of the plural forms which can be found for the word TEJGƎL is the following one : TEJGƎLÄCH .

And therefore : A single bit TEJGL, but some several bits TEJGƎLAECH, are some of the forms which could be gleaned from speech, books, and other media.

p.s. as for the dish of pastry which is called ROGƎLÄCH, which was mentioned by another person who wrote here before, its single form could be ROGƎLE, or ROGƎLEJ, but that may also vary.

I have not any reliable sources which I could cite at present, although I suppose that one could refer to English-Yiddish dictionaries, i.e. if one wishes to find the Yiddish word for dough, or for other English terms.79.182.49.59 (talk) 16:53, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Why does this article refer to Italian Jewish culture ,and also to Roman culture, in the context of Ashkenazi Jewish culture ? Why does this article compare between Italian Jewish culture, as well as Roman culture, and Ashkenazi culture ?

Hello, could someone please explain the relevance of referring to Italian Jewish practices, as well as for Roman practices, which can both be found on this Wikipedia article ?

Is there any reliable proof for Italian Jewish cuisine having an effect on this particular dish of Ashkenazi Jewish cuisine ?

Is there any reliable proof for Roman cuisine having an effect on it ?

Is there any certain reason for comparing between Italian Jewish culture, as well as between Roman culture, and Ashkenazi Jewish culture, in the case of the subject which is dealt with in this article ? 79.182.49.59 (talk) 17:08, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Traditional Jewish Ashkenazi naming for Ashkenazi Jewish holidays

Hello,

Could someone please add the following names for the Jewish holidays who were mentioned on this Wikipedia article, as their current referenced names are not the traditional Ashkenazi ones, in despite of this article dealing with a subject which regards Ashkenazi Jewish culture, and differences between traditions of different ethnic groups who adhere to Jewish faith exist, for instance in the case of observing holidays, rites and practices which are associated with them, their place in a given culture or tradition, and so on ?

( following below are some of the more common varieties of traditional Ashkenazi Jewish names for these holidays, as they are found amongst Jews of Ashkenazi tradition, although that other titles for these holidays could also be found amongst Ashkenazi cultures, with variance amongst different denominations, sects, periods, different geographical areas who had been occupied by people who may follow differing Jewish Ashkenazi traditions, e.t.c., at least to my knowledge )

Rosh Hashanna : Rojsh HaShonǝ ; Rosh Hashunǝ ; Roːsh Hashunǝ .

Sukkot : Sukes ; Sikes .

Simchat Tora : Simchǝs Tejrǝ ; Simchǝs Tojrǝ .

Purim : Purǝm ; Pirǝm .

Furtherly to that, Jewish holidays, such as those which are mentioned above, could be termed, according to Jewish Ashkenazi tradition, in the titles which follows below :

Jejm-Tejv*, Jojm-Tojv,* Jejmtǝv** , or Jojmtǝv** ( Plural : Jomem Tejvem*, Jumem Tojvem*, Jejmtejvǝm**, Jojmtojvǝm** ), although that other variations of this name also exist ; this name could mean in Hebrew "good day ( or "good days", when it is to be found its plural form ).

• these are more formal varieties, which could sometimes be encountered in matters which are mainly liturgical, or have to do with reading texts which are considered sacred by Ashkenazi Jewish tradition ; aside of that, these forms may apparently come to serve as more modern, or encyclopeadical forms, such as those which could be found on the Yiddish version of Wikipedia [ although that this is merely a guess on my behalf ], and therefore, by contrast, then they could also be found in more secular documentation, e.t.c. ).

• • these forms may approximate some varieties of actual colloquial usage of these terms, although their use could be implied from appearing on books, or in more formal cases, and also to the extent of citing of referring to texts which are considered to be sacred according to Jewish Ashkenazi tradition, although that this is not always the case for the appearance of these above-mentioned forms, as it may vary according to tradition, denomination, period, and so on ). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.182.49.59 (talk) 18:07, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Traditional Jewish Ashkenazi naming for Ashkenazi Jewish holidays

Hello,

Could someone please add the following names for the Jewish holidays who were mentioned on this Wikipedia article, as their current referenced names are not the traditional Ashkenazi ones, in despite of this article dealing with a subject which regards Ashkenazi Jewish culture, and differences between traditions of different ethnic groups who adhere to Jewish faith exist, for instance in the case of observing holidays, rites and practices which are associated with them, their place in a given culture or tradition, and so on ?

( following below are some of the more common varieties of traditional Ashkenazi Jewish names for these holidays, as they are found amongst Jews of Ashkenazi tradition, although that other titles for these holidays could also be found amongst Ashkenazi cultures, with variance amongst different denominations, sects, periods, different geographical areas who had been occupied by people who may follow differing Jewish Ashkenazi traditions, e.t.c., at least to my knowledge )

Rosh Hashanna : Rojsh HaShonǝ ; Rosh Hashunǝ ; Roːsh Hashunǝ . ***

Sukkot : Sukes ; Sikes .***

Simchat Tora : Simchǝs Tejrǝ ; Simchǝs Tojrǝ .***

Purim : Purǝm ; Pirǝm .***

Furtherly to that, Jewish holidays, such as those which are mentioned above, could be termed, according to Jewish Ashkenazi tradition, in the titles which follows below :

Jejm-Tejv*, Jojm-Tojv,* Jejmtǝv** , or Jojmtǝv** ( Plural : Jomǝm Tejvǝm*, Jumǝm Tojvǝm*, Jejmtejvǝm**, Jojmtojvǝm** ), although that other variations of this name also exist ; this name could mean in Hebrew "good day ( or "good days", when it is to be found its plural form ).

• these are more formal varieties, which could sometimes be encountered in matters which are mainly liturgical, or have to do with reading texts which are considered sacred by Ashkenazi Jewish tradition ; aside of that, these forms may apparently come to serve as more modern, or encyclopeadical forms, such as those which could be found on the Yiddish version of Wikipedia [ although that this is merely a guess on my behalf ], and therefore, by contrast, then they could also be found in more secular documentation, e.t.c. ; However, for purely liturgical purposes, such as reading aloud a prayer by a religious person who follows Ashkenazi Jewish tradition, then one may find the following plural forms, amongst others : Jejm Tejvim ; Jojm Tojvim ).

• • these forms may approximate some varieties of actual colloquial usage of these terms, although their use could be implied from appearing on books, or in more formal cases, and also to the extent of citing of referring to texts which are considered to be sacred according to Jewish Ashkenazi tradition, although that this is not always the case for the appearance of these above-mentioned forms, as it may vary according to tradition, denomination, period, and so on ).

• • • On certain occassions, such as whilst reciting a prayer by a religious person who follows Ashkenazi Jewsih Traditions, then the following forms might also be encountered, although that other forms which may serve for such purposes are also in use :

Rosh Hashana : Rojsh Hashono, Rosh Hashunu, Roːsh Hashunu .

Sukkot : Sukeys, Sikoys .

Simchat Tora : Simchas Tejro, Simchas Tojru .

Purim : Purim, Pirim . 79.182.49.59 (talk) 18:20, 21 December 2013 (UTC)