Talk:Teenage rebellion

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Teenage rebellion was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
July 24, 2009	Good article nominee	Not listed

This article was the subject of an educational assignment that ended on 1 July 2009. Further details are available here.

This article was selected as the article for improvement on 20 July 2020 for a period of one week.

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This article is fundamentally flawed.

NPOV

The commentary in this article forms an editorial, and while the topic is worthy a WP article, this article is nothing more than a commentary. I am stubbing it, and will work on finding attributable information to use. - Freechild 16:42, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed - article is a very valid topic, but needs rewrite, and possibly some expert attention. - Eric 20:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I gave it an initial shot, and borrowed some from the Developmental psychology article, but this article still needs a lot of help, and citations. - Eric 21:55, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone else see this as really one-sided? It's almost pro-rebellion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.251.143.191 (talk) 08:53, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree, it is heavily pro-rebellion, with the very first sentence being POV. FurryAminal (talk) 13:58, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright problem with Image:Rebel without a cause432.jpg

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Teenage rebellion/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Hey all. I'll be reviewing this article for possible GA status. Note that you didn't actually complete the nomination process properly - the template was missing from this page. I've added it in order to create my review. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:10, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This article isn't yet up to GA standards. Please feel free to renominate if/when its issues have been resolved. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 01:57, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Writing and formatting

The lead section should be expanded to more completely summarize the topic. It should also begin with a definition introduced by the term in bold: "Teenage rebellion is..." The current lead is an introduction to the topic, but the article doesn't actually focus on the material referred to in the lead
The article could use a few more internal links, especially in the network section
Per WP:MoS, section headings should have only the first word capitalized unless using proper nouns
"Naturalness" is not a real word in this context
As a technical issue, some of the spacing is misplaced / not needed
"in the name of their own good" - awkward wording
"measure discouraging youth" -> "measures discouraging youth"
"decision making" -> "decision-making"
"Steinberg states in his article “Risk Taking in Adolescence: New Perspectives from Brain and Behavioral Science” that “Systematic research does not support the stereotype of adolescents as irrational individuals who believe they are invulnerable and who are unaware, inattentive to, or unconcerned about the potential harms of risky behavior.”" - first, since this quote is referenced, you don't need the name of the article in the text. Second, one-sentence paragraphs should be avoided.
"This because the rules that teenagers break when they rebel are based upon the logical system supported by the cognitive-control network" - incomplete sentence
"This network" - specify which network
Don't start sentences with "And"
As the Schraffenberger article is cited inline, the title is not needed in the text
"peers saw her bookishness shyness" - grammar
"lots of teens go through it and feel that most don't understand" - colloquial wording
"When going through such a stage it is best to be involved but to a certain extent. It is most likely that this is a stage." - meaning + grammar
A link used as a reference should not also be in external links
Stub tag is probably no longer valid
Categories should be more specific

Accuracy and verifiability

Normally, citations are not necessary in the lead (except for quotes), because the relevant material is covered in the rest of the article. Here, since that isn't the case, the last sentence of the lead needs a citation.
Citations needed for:

The entire "naturalness" section
He argues that social programs and measure discouraging youth from taking part in risky behavior (such as drug and alcohol abuse, reckless driving, and unsafe sex) have been largely ineffective.
Steinberg also posits that this is because teenage risk-taking is generated by competition between the socioemotional and cognitive-control networks.
Specifically, the socioemotional network, which dictates responses to social and emotional stimulation, develops more rapidly and earlier during puberty.
The cognitive-control network, which imposes regulatory control over dangerous decision making, develops over a longer period of time, across the whole of adolescence.
Increased availability of information and education regarding the consequences of risky behavior have improved adolescents’ understanding of the risks.
From the point of view of a cognitive psychologist, a large factor in teenage rebellion is the natural early development of the socioemotional network
a Cornell study from 2006 determined that teens are more likely to consider risk while making a decision, and for a longer period of time, than adults
Much of Goth culture defies majority norms within the teen community
When going through such a stage it is best to be involved but to a certain extent. It is most likely that this is a stage.

Link 1 is broken
Full URLs should be linked where possible instead of the home page

Broad

The material presented in the lead could be expanded and made its own section, replaced by a summary-style lead

Neutral

Check against WP:WTA and WP:Weasel - the use of certain words introduces an editorial bias to the article; these should be avoided
More weight is given to Steinberg's theories than to those of other authors - are they more widely accepted? Care should be taken not to place undue weight on any one point of view

Stable

No issues noted

Images

This article does not have any images, as the last one was removed for inadequate fair-use rationale. While images are not a requirement for GA, I would recommend having at least one.