Talk:Tarah Wheeler

Name

Are there any current sources for her full name? I've been unable to find "Marie" specified anywhere reliable. "Tarah Wheeler Van Vlack" has sources, but unclear if that was ever legally changed. BLDM (talk) 02:57, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

sure here https://pdxscholar.library.pdx.edu/polisci_theses/1/ will update 104.156.104.138 (talk) 00:50, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

External Links

User is attempting to add new links to the External Links section. My current understanding of WP:EL is that the links in question do not belong there. @TisiphoneFury: Please discuss here instead of edit-warring. BLDM (talk) 23:38, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

It appears that BLDM has restored one link in the External Links section, but strangely it is the only link that appears shaky or otherwise recommended against by WP:EL standards. According to WP:EL, suggestion #10 under "links to be avoided" is "Social Media" sites. This does appear to be at odds with the Wikipedia pages for many other celebrities, who have their Twitter page listed in their External Links, but the entire topic appears to be the subject of numerous talk pages, including here Wikipedia_talk:External_links/Archive_37#Twitter

However, all other previously-removed External Links were both germane to this Wikipedia article and in accordance with the guidelines set forth on WP:EL. The sites such as the Foreign Policy contributions page and the Washington Post contributors page are (1) accessible, (2) contain content proper (useful, tasteful, informative, factual, etc.), and (3) likely to remain functional into the future. In the case of the Bloomberg news interview this is also in accordance with WP:EL, specifically the guidance that such content is "neutral and accurate material ... relevant ... and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues." No one is suggesting that someone should illicitly download the embedded video on a national news media site in order to embed or otherwise place said video here in Wikipedia, right? Of course not.

Restoring links to news organizations at this time. Feel free to continue discussion related to social media links if you wish to clarify the position on that External Link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TisiphoneFury (talk • contribs) 05:19, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

I opted to not dispute the Twitter link as there seems to be a general consensus that these are acceptable in BLP articles. As for the other links, I'm not sure these are 'high quality' as recommended by WP:EL for BLP articles.

• Foreign Policy link: an indirect link to a single self-published article
• Washington Post link: only contains information that is already or could be included in the article
• Bloomberg video: can be cited elsewhere in the article

BLDM (talk) 06:02, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

These links don't appear to be valid under WP:EL194.78.84.178 (talk) 18:09, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Notability tag removed

I have removed a WP:DRIVEBY notability tag placed by Zweifel - the article contains numerous sources and passes a prima facie test of WP:NBIO. If Zweifel believes that this is insufficient, their remedy would be to nominate the article for deletion through AfD and reach a broader consensus decision. Absent any such action, the tag serves no purpose. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 06:23, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• But why remove her academic history? Zweifel (talk) 06:24, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Do you have a source for it? If not, then we can't include it. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 06:25, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Her LinkedIn page (I suck at formatting, I'm sorry) : [[1]] "PhD-partial" "University of Michigan Degree NameDoctor of Philosophy - PhD-partialField Of StudyComplex Systems, Political Science Dates attended or expected graduation2004 – 2008 Activities and Societies: Fellow of the Center for the Study of Complex Systems"
  • I mean, it's cute that she puts it on her LinkedIn page and tries to hide it. Most people use the term "ABD" or "All but Dissertation".
  • Here is a resume: [| Pre-candidate for Doctorate...]
  • [[2]] "...went for my PhD..." -- this is for her failed start-up called FizzMint.
    • (Redacted)
    • Oh yeah, it's hard to prove a negative, but the University of Michigan site seems to want nothing to do with her. I haven't found a single reference.
    • Anyway, "PhD-partial" is citation enough, and I am going to restore the language.
  • Also, buddy, who is "we" here?

User:FiloSottile

• I beg your pardon. First, how is my edit regarding her educational history inaccurate? Second, what does "original research" mean, exactly? Surely mentioning this scholarship she received constitutes "original research" as much as her very well documented failure to complete her PhD. I was asked to provide a citation - and I provided it. What makes her look good can't simply be objective, and what makes her look bad is in the interstices between condemned unsourced statements and condemned "original research". You can't use both. Third, being honest about this person being little more than an 'influencer' does not make me any more biased than the meat puppets she has watching and editing this page. This person is using Wikipedia as a public resume, as a public relations tool.

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I have redacted a number of personal attacks targeting the article subject. Wikipedia is not a platform for users to express their personal displeasure with article subjects. Zweifel, your personal opinion of Tarah Wheeler is irrelevant, and your expressed desire to paint her in a negative light suggests that you are incapable of editing this article in a neutral and unbiased manner. I suggest you find some other articles to edit, preferably about people whom you haven't made your mind up to be outraged about. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 16:15, 25 September 2020 (UTC)