Talk:Tarabya I of Pakhan

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Did you know... that Tarabya I of Pakhan became governor of Pagan despite his subpar performance in the Forty Years' War?

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 18:20, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that Tarabya I of Pakhan is the earliest known patrilineal ancestor of the Burmese Toungoo kings from King Bayinnaung onwards?~~ Source: (Thaw Kaung 2010: 118–119)
- ALT1: Tarabya I of Pakhan became governor of Pagan despite his subpar performance in the Forty Years' War? Sources: (Yazawin Thit Vol. 1 2012: 246) and (Hmannan Vol. 2 2003: 20)

Reviewed: Macht weit die Pforten in der Welt

Created by Hybernator (talk). Self-nominated at 01:15, 16 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting life, on good-looking sources, Burmese sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I am not too interested in the hook. It provides no indication of how early this was, and I guess that other readers also may not know Toungoo kings, let alone a specific one. Can you perhaps mention one thing related to more general knowledge? I am also not sure if we need the "Gov.". - In the article, it would be nice to see references at the ends of all paragraphs. Any chance that you could move the two images of sons-in-law to where they don't "sandwich" the text between them and the map? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:24, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, Gerda Arendt. I've rearranged the layout of the pics so as to minimize the sandwich effect but the actual layout ultimately depends on the user's browser settings. I've also put in references at the ends of the paragraphs. Coming up with a good hook is a tough one. Not sure if most people are interested in history, let alone Burmese history factoids. Anyway, I've tweaked the main hook, and added ALT1. If you have a better suggestion, I'm all ears. Thanks, Hybernator (talk) 19:12, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. What do you think of simply saying that he "is remembered for his progeny", - perhaps mentioning the dynasty OR the king, but not both?

I approve ALT1 but am not happiest - who knows Pagan? Always learning. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:06, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Both King Bayinnaung and the dynasty are needed in the main hook because Tarabya wasn't an ancestor of the kings of the dynasty before Bayinnaung. ALT1 should be fine. People might wonder what Pagan (Bagan) is. Cheers, Hybernator (talk) 01:16, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]