Talk:Tara June Winch

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Arts and Entertainment

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the arts and entertainment work group.

Australia: Literature Low‑importance

	Australia portal Tara June Winch is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the project page.AustraliaWikipedia:WikiProject AustraliaTemplate:WikiProject AustraliaAustralia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Australian literature (assessed as Low-importance).
	Need help improving this article? Ask a Librarian^{What's this?} at the National Library of Australia.
	The Wikimedia Australia chapter can be contacted via email to helpwikimedia.org.au for non-editorial assistance.

Women writers Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women writers, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of women writers on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women writersWikipedia:WikiProject Women writersTemplate:WikiProject Women writersWomen writers articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

"Other" section

"Andrew Bolt used Winch's name in two controversial articles about "political" Aborigines. Bolt asserted that Winch and other fair skinned Aborigines claimed aboriginality to advance their careers. The Australian court system has since ruled that the articles were inflammatory, offensive and contravened the Racial Discrimination Act.[1][2]."

This section should remain in the article - since it just happens to be about the subject, Tara Winch, and how she was the "victim" of Racial Discrimination. This has not only gotten media attention, (note: a link has been removed as it is a broken link), (eg. The Sydney Morning Herald) and also the attention of the Federal Court of Australia.

User: John Nevard: This section is one of the only sections in the article that has been referenced, and if you were so worried about it being not substantially sourced, why didn't you try and source it better (instead of removing the whole section)? Better yet, since this is a WP:BLP, why didn't you remove the Tara June Winch#Life section? Since that just happens to be fully unsourced. Out of curiousity, you have edited the Andrew Bolt article, quite a number of times. Is it a WP:COI or what? -- MST☆R ^{(Chat Me!)} 05:01, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As you would know if you had done a modicum of research, Winch didn't even join the case against Bolt. It is utterly irrelevant to a biography of her. The matter is discussed on the Andrew Bolt article, and others involved in the legal matter, because it relates to those persons. As far as I'm aware, there is no conflict of interest in actually doing proper research and complying with Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Nevard (talk) 05:06, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So it's just a happy coincidence you came here and saved the day, by removing sourced content. Okay, I'll be getting more opinions on this. Thank You -- MST☆R ^{(Chat Me!)} 05:09, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Or to make things more easier, I'll do source-finding for the soon-to-be "Other" section, myself. Already got a few :) -- MST☆R ^{(Chat Me!)} 05:12, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Any re-addition of that information violates WP:BLP and WP:UNDUE. How could negative claims proven in court to be wrong possibly be important enough to belong in the biography of a living person? Perhaps that info belongs in Bolt's article (though not necessarily with Winch's name), but it certainly does not belong here. Qwyrxian (talk) 05:45, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good to know. However, just because you can find some sources that mention both Winch, and the Bolt matter, does not mean the Bolt matter is relevant in any way to this article, which is a biography of an author. Policy on biographies of living persons is rigorously enforced, and I fail to see how any of the sources out there are going to satisfy some pretty key requirements of that policy. Nevard (talk) 05:52, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]