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Date	Process	Result
April 3, 2024	Good article nominee	Listed
September 26, 2024	Peer review	Reviewed

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Tapir! often wear red papier-mâché heads while performing, representing the character of "The Pilgrim"?

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Section size for Tapir! (9 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	1,669	1,669
Career	2,581	2,581
Musical style and reception	1,689	1,689
Members	566	566
Discography	18	634
Albums	119	119
EPs	147	147
Singles	350	350
References	11,759	11,759
Total	18,898	18,898

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The result was: promoted by Dylan620 talk 23:27, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Tapir!'s album The Pilgrim, Their God and the King of My Decrepit Mountain tells the story of a pilgrim travelling through a world of green hills and red creatures? Source: God Is In The TV review and Brighton and Hove News gig review
- ALT1: ... that Tapir! often wear red papier-mâché heads while performing, representing the character of "The Pilgrim"? Source: DIY Magazine interview
- ALT2: ... that Tapir!'s album The Pilgrim, Their God and the King of My Decrepit Mountain contains three acts, each opening with narration by Kyle Field? Source: "Each of the three acts, the first two of which dropped as separate EPs last year, open with a brief spoken introduction from Kyle Field of Californian act Little Wings"
- ALT3: ... that the climax of Tapir!'s song "Gymnopédie" has been described as sounding "like it's performed teetering on the edge of a cliff"? Source: "Creating a lush waltz time backing track to house lyrical visions of a dysfunctional heaven, at the climax of the track, the whole thing opens out into a glorious lo-fi symphony that sounds like it’s performed teetering on the edge of a cliff"
- ALT4: ... that Tapir!'s song "Eidolon" was inspired by a Walt Whitman poem? Source: ""...this EP is probably my favourite as it pulls the most inspiration from biblical and mythical sources," says vocalist Ike Gray. "Eidolon being stolen from a Walt Whitman poem,""
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Panos Katseris
- Comment: Lots of great options for hooks here.

Created by Suntooooth (talk). Self-nominated at 19:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tapir!; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

QPQ good, article new at time of nom, long enough. Well written and sourced. Not sure some of the song details necessarily belong in "style", but no objections really."
All the hook facts check out and are cited in-line, though alt2 might be pushing it a bit, with Field being featured on the opening tracks not necessarily "opening" them. No issues with the other three, let a promoter choose. Kingsif (talk) 17:27, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the review! I disagree on ALT2 (I think the source describing Field as opening the acts would probably be good enough for the hook), but it's probably my least favourite of the hooks anyway - ALT1 and ALT3 are my favourites. Out of curiosity, what would you suggest for the song details section? I've been thinking of renaming the section, but I don't know what to. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 17:37, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, some of the details would be better suited to being included in "composition" and "reception" sections of articles about the songs/a detailed article about the album, I don't think there's a generic section you could make for them at the artist article unless it was just "Songs". Kingsif (talk) 18:05, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 21:16, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Nominator: Suntooooth (talk · contribs)

Reviewer: Tails Wx (talk · contribs) 22:17, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Starting review on this article! It'll take up to one week. Thanks! :) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 22:17, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
Is it verifiable with no original research?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):

C. It contains no original research:

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
No copyright violation concerns, nothing on Earwig's Copyvio Detector Tool, pass!
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Good work on the article, Suntooooth! I have a few comments below for ya:

Comments

Prose

Consider expanding the lead section! A two-sentence lead is too short; I suggest adding information about the band's start and their musical style.
Under Tapir!#History, "Tapir! is made up of..." – "is made up" to "consists".
In the same section: "While the band formed in 2019, they only began releasing music in 2022." – how about re-wording this to "The band began releasing music in 2022, although they formed three years prior in 2019".
Also in the same section: "They released "My God" (their first single, written during the COVID-19 pandemic)...", how about "They released "My God" as their first single, written during the COVID-19 pandemic"?
"performing at Paper Dress Vintage" – perhaps a bit of information on the Paper Dress Vintage would improve context at the performance venue. :)
"a being travelling through a fictional world of green hills" – maybe "a being travelling" could be re-worded? I'm confused as what it's supposed to mean. (And green hills mentioned? ;) ^[Joke])

Spotchecks

I spotchecked multiple sources, only two concerns:

"written during the COVID-19 pandemic" – the provided DIY magazine source doesn't verify this.
"Also in August 2022, they performed at Green Man Festival." – The source does state that the band performed at the festival (which I'll assume is the festival given that the source states Green Man Rising, which seems like it) in 2022, but doesn't verify the month, which is August.

Other

The PIAS source shouldn't have [PIAS] as it's website; just PIAS is okay!
Unless I'm missing something, I don't see the published date for the second DIY magazine source.
Five of the band's members in the given section are without sources. They are all covered in the PIAS source, so just add the sources to the unsourced members and that'll be it.

That's all I've got! I'll leave this open for at least two weeks; given that you've notified me of your holiday plans. Thanks! :) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 21:31, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for the detailed review!

All prose issues fixed as far as I can tell - let me know if the lead needs any more expanding or tweaking, leads are 100% what I'm worst at when writing full articles :P I removed the part about Paper Dress Vintage since I don't think it's necessary.
As for sources, I fixed the first issue (must've just been that I put the wrong reference name) and added a citation to a Green Man 2022 review that has the date of the festival in it. If there's a better way to do that, let me know!
Fixed two of the other issues; the published date for the second DIY magazine source was autofilled by RefToolbar, but it's also listed on the author's contributor page with a date.

Let me know if I've missed anything! Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 13:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great, @Suntooooth! I still think the lead could be expanded a sentence or two more, once that's done, I'll be happy to promote this. :) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 19:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tails Wx: Is it good now? :] Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 19:22, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yep! Great work on the article; congratulations on your first GA, Suntooooth! :D ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 21:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.