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Why is this article circling around Croatian "origin"? All of the scholars named here or cited are from Croatia. No other source is dealing with the name — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.190.26.230 (talk) 08:59, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
the pos-proto-indo-iranian languages =/= iranians..for example, the scythians was co-related to proto-iranians (bmac culture), but not was "iranian".. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.48.179.76 (talk) 08:50, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Goths and Scythians (as well as Neriai-Neuri, Rus, Prus, Grudingi-Grethungi, Dervingi-Thervingi) are the same Lithuanian speaking people which now are partly slavised and renamed to Ukrainians and the other part of them still called Baltic people and still use original Lithuanian language of these lands (till 1569 these lands and were Lithuanian state), The river Tannais in Scythian (i.e. Lithuanian) language was called Silys (first mentioned by Pliny the Elder), that in Lithuanian language means the river that flows through the pine forest (in Lith. it is Shilys). Sarmatians are Siauromatians (in Lith. language it is literary 'narrow vision', i.e. the reference to Chinese-Turk-Tatar admixture that Muscovites possess) of Herodotus times and are nowadays Russians-Slavs and they lived on the right bank of Tannais-Silys-Don river. Therefore these 3 names has nothing to do with Croatia or Havarti since this name is for the people that speaks Slavic language and live at the end land, i.e. in Krajina (like Ukraine is now called). Moreover Croatia is the main land where Kajkavian dialect of Slavic language reside and in Lithuanian language 'what' is also 'Kaj' or 'kaa' while Muscovite language (the origin of Slavic languages) uses 'shto' and this dialect is used in Serbia and spreading now to other Yugoslavian countries. Therefore Croatians are descendants from Visigoths/Ostrogoths that settled this land prior arrival of Volga Bulgarians, i.e. Sarmatians or Muscovites, who brought Slavic language into this region 200 years later that Croatians-Slovenians settled this land (or might be that they are Illyrians and they spoke Lithuanian language related language from very ancient times). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.38.72.121 (talk) 07:21, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]