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Requested move 24 September 2015

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not Moved - The suggestion to take this question to a widely advertised RFC addressing all relevant articles is a wise one. Mike Cline (talk) 22:18, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]


– All should be pluralized per WP:PLURAL. WP:NCET is inadequate, so let's rely more on the other rule. George Ho (talk) 01:24, 24 September 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 05:40, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rjensen, this article mentions only the ethnic group. Why not include details about their culture and other stuff? George Ho (talk) 17:26, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Info on Tamil American culture belongs here--where else? The Wiki rule that has been mentioned is about "peoples" not ethnic groups. The people = "Tamil" the ethnic groups are Tamils who live in USA, Canada, UK etc etc-- they are all part of the Tamil people. Rjensen (talk) 19:32, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There are Tamil cuisine and other parts of Tamil culture. Unsure about Tamil American one, but the article has been about peoples. --George Ho (talk) 20:20, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Chinese Americans and Korean Americans are vastly outnumbered by the other xyz American articles. They were also quite recently moved by George Ho and Jenks24. I wouldn't use them as examples. This is definitely part of a greater discussion here.Filpro (talk) 21:08, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Within the articles for American ethnic groups there are more in the singular, but that just means they should be fixed too, as they're out of step with WP:PLURAL. Though I agree we need a central discussion.--Cúchullain t/c 21:28, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Filpro and Cuchullain: I tried that in WP:VPPR, but there weren't enough people aware of the discussion. George Ho (talk) 22:19, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It probably needs an WP:RFC.Cúchullain t/c 13:45, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I did that too, Cuchullain. However, the archive bot somehow put it to one of archive pages. George Ho (talk) 18:31, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
WP:PLURAL refers to peoples, such as the Tamil or Chinese people. This article is about a different topic, an ethnic group living in the United States comprised of people of Tamil heritage. Rjensen (talk) 20:26, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That still justifies pluralizing the title. How does it not? George Ho (talk) 22:37, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The rule applies to the article on Tamils (they are a people), not to this article (which is not about a people). I suggest that "Tamil American" singular is broader and more useful as a title because it includes group characteristics (like religion). Rjensen (talk) 03:14, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Um... People create religion and language as part of cultural community. They create things. George Ho (talk) 03:43, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per WP:PLURAL and precedent at Talk:Korean Americans. I still don't get the rationale for titles such as "Tamil American" – is it supposed to be an adjective or a noun? If it's adjective, then it fails WP:NOUN. If it's a noun, then it fails WP:PLURAL (Articles on people groups.). Disclaimer: I was notified of this discussion by User:George Ho, presumably as a participant in Korean American RM. FWIW, I support a RfC for moving all similar titles, so as to lose less energy debating each individual one. I don't see a reason for maintaining inconsistency. No such user (talk) 13:41, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
But where else other than WP:VPPR? George Ho (talk) 15:31, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
it is NOT an article about a people group (Those are Tamils, Chinese etc etc) but about what all the RS call an "ethnic group". The word is a noun & follows wp:Noun. Here's the difference: a people is a largely permanent group that is very hard/ or uncommon to enter or leave. It's very rare for a person to move between peoples--from Tamil to Chinese, say. However it's much easier to change between "Tamil American" and "Tamil Canadian." Rjensen (talk) 07:16, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Requested move 11 November 2015

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Moves completed, per the RfC result, as technical requests. RGloucester — ☎ 22:40, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

– Per discussion at WP:VPP, people agree to pluralise "anybody-Americans". Also, WP:PLURAL encourages this. WP:NCET may not be enough to deal with this, but damn let's pluralize anyway. George Ho (talk) 06:24, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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