Talk:Talking Dead

Creation of 'List of Talking Dead Episodes'Page

I think there should be a separate page specifically for a list of episodes. The only list regarding the episodes in the articles is the Guests section, so I think that the list of episodes should also specify the guests appeared at the episode.

Dagn96 {talk} 15:44, 11 June 2012

The formatting is kind of difficult for the new list of episodes I created. I think I will create a new page for "List of Talking Dead Episodes" as suggested to make the table easier to read and cleaner. Marty2Hotty (talk) 05:59, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree that there should be a separate page for episodes. Encmetalhead (talk) 01:13, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

I disagree. This is a talk show, not a scripted show. There is no storyline or content that could expand each episode's listing. It is no more than a list of guests, dates and ratings. The details on the show itself are brief and are unlikely to change much and any change (different producer, different time, different host, new segment, etc.) would involve just a line change. The article, at this point, is balanced and contains all essential content. Maybe if The Walking Dead goes 7 or 8 seasons, the lists of episodes would be unwieldy but right now, it's fine as it is. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Broadcast Information

If the show is live, and it's on at 10 on the East Coast, does that mean the West Coast get a recorded version from three hours earlier? Broadcast times don't seem to be addressed in the main article. Stephend01 (talk) 13:05, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Talking X franchise

I'd like to propose that information in the See also section be raised to a more prominent position in the article, possibly even in the lede. Talking Bad, Talking Saul and Talking Preacher are effectively spin-offs or sequels of Talking Dead, and speak to Talking Dead's success for AMC. (While these shows have different topics, they're essentially retools of Talking Dead.) I'd also like to see these shows mentioned in the infobox (Chronology). TWD and Fear TWD are related, but Talking Bad/Saul/Preacher are sequels or spin-offs. Am I right? Reidgreg (talk) 13:18, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and put these in the infobox as "Related shows". - Reidgreg (talk) 18:10, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Episode length

I'm finding the first paragraphs of Broadcast and format a little confusing regarding the length of the episodes while it is throwing in other numbers for the bonus segments. Maybe the episode length could be stated up front, that the first 21 episodes (or what have you) were half-hour, after which the show was expanded to a full hour, before going into how long the online bonus material is? Or maybe the fact that they changed the length of the online bonus material isn't that relevant to the overall article, and it could just be shortened to "...a bonus segment continues online, referred to by Hardwick as..." Reidgreg (talk) 13:21, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Studio audience

Is saying Talking Dead is a "live talk show" enough to inform that it's before a live studio audience? I was wondering if the audience might be mentioned with the fact that they also watched the episode being discussed (I'm not sure if they watched a live broadcast or a taping). Might say something about how the show has occasionally shown nightvision recordings of the audience as they reacted to pivotal scenes -- and that the audience sometimes receives promotional giveaways of TWD merchandising, and often props from the episode for the featured audience member who asks a question. I'm not sure how to work this into the existing material which is broken up season-by-season (ie: not sure which seasons they started certain audience interactions), but perhaps this is worth developing into its own section? Thoughts? Reidgreg (talk) 13:25, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

No it's not enough. There are lots of live talk shows on TV that have no studio audience, so when there is an audience that should be specified. The many things you mention seem to be "format" issues, and so could go in the "Broadcast and format" section. 99.192.64.160 (talk) 23:40, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Season numbers & divisions

This page does some things with numbering and dividing the seasons that is not how AMC does it. While Wikipedia need not be a slave to how AMC does it, if there is no external source for doing it this way it is no more than WP:OR. Three main differences are:

- The AMC website numbers the Talking Dead seasons as starting with season 2. There is no season 1. This is because the first episodes of Talking Dead were aired after episodes of season 2 of The Walking Dead. The current season of Talking Dead is listed as season 6, not season 5 as the Wikipedia page says, even for the episodes that are discussing season 2 of Fear The Walking Dead. Now it seams a little more than strange to say there is a season 2 without a season 1, but when Mad Men has a 12 month gap between what AMC called the first half of season 7 and the second half of season 7 Wikipedia fell in line. The much more natural numbering (calling them season 7 and season 8) due to the full year separation was not done here. The same thing was done when The Sopranos had a two-part final season with a one year gap in the middle. So if we let the networks count the seasons in quirky ways there, maybe we should do the same here.

- The Wikipedia page makes a division in the current season of Talking Dead between episodes about The Walking Dead and ones about Fear The Walking Dead. The "overview" box counts these episodes separately and there is a burnt orange bar in the table for the season dividing the two sets pf episodes. But the AMC page just has a running numbering and the first show talking about Fear was a week after the last one talking about TWD, so there was no discontinuity in time. I see no reason for the Wikipedia page to emphasize this division where there is none for AMC.

- In the table at the bottom of the page headed as "Specials" the preview for TWD season 6 and something called "Talking Fear" are listed. But according to AMC these are just episodes 17 and 18 of what they call season 5 of Talking Dead (and this page calls season 4). So they should be moved to the table with the season they are categorized with. Also, episode 18 is not called "Talking Fear" on the AMC page. They call it "Talking Dead Fear Special".

These are all bookkeeping issues, so I'm not too worried about them, but it would be good to hear what others think about how we should list things. 99.192.64.160 (talk) 23:37, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Well, it's been a week and a half and no one has commented on these issues. If no comments are added by the end of the week I'll just assume for now that no one objects to making changes in line with these comments or no one cares either way. I'd prefer to have more input before making any changes, but two weeks is more than enough time to wait for input before being BOLD. Is anyone out there? Bueller? Bueller? :-) 99.192.92.2 (talk) 14:06, 8 June 2016 (UTC) (=99.192.64.160)

It should stay the way it is. I understand why AMC is calling the first season "Season 2", but it makes no sense logically. The fact the, there is not six seasons of Talking Dead, but five, you can't just make-up an non-existent season. Several external sources support this: TV Guide, The Futon Critic, Zap2it. I just don't see the changes as an improvement, but just creates confusion. As a compromise, we can add to the article that AMC calls the first season, "season 2", etc. Drovethrughosts (talk) 14:16, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Adding a note that explains that AMC numbers the seasons differently seems like a good solution. Any thoughts about the other two issues (the division within seasons and the specials)? 99.192.64.88 (talk) 13:11, 9 June 2016 (UTC) (=99.192....)

The specials could me moved into their respective seasons, I don't have an issue with that. The division is merely helpful to differentiate between the episodes for TWD and FTWD. Drovethrughosts (talk) 13:14, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

I say keep the season numbering from 1, and am for moving the specials into (or more adjacent to) their respective seasons. And I appreciate the division lines. Perhaps another orange line with "Fear the Walking Dead season 1" before the October 4, 2015 special, if listed with the 2015-16 season? Reidgreg (talk) 13:38, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

AMC had the Talking Fear special as the 18th ep but when I looked at my TV guide and on Zap2It, it doesn't have a number. How about keeping the episodes that billed as instead taking it off of AMC site cause it creates confusion.S hannon434 (talk) 19:26, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

(I'm confused as to the intended meaning of your second sentence.) Going from the dates, that first Fear special looks closer to s5 than s4, but I don't have a real preference. I liked the division bars on s5, distinguishing the episodes talking about TWD and those for FTWD, so I tried something similar for s4 (feel free to undo). I noticed, though, that at the top of s4 there's a bit of text stating that the "season 5 preview" is part of season four of TD (whereas currently the "season 6 preview" is listed with season four). Should we revisit where the specials belong? Again, I don't have a real preference, I'd just like to see consistency. Reidgreg (talk) 19:39, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

As I noted in my comment starting this section, we typically take our cue about how to count seasons and episodes from the way they are officially counted by the creators of the shows. I used the example of Mad Men, that had a 12 month gap in the middle of what they called "season 7" and the episode numbering followed what they officially declared. Here we decided to not use AMC's season numbers because it is a bit more than non-standard to say that season 1 just does not exist at all, but once we have settled how to number the seasons I think it makes best sense to number the episodes as they do. I don't see there being any real confusion in that. If TV guide and Zap2It have decided to count episode numbers in their own way I don't see why we should take that as authoritative and follow it. 99.192.94.32 (talk) 16:36, 17 June 2016 (UTC) (=99.192)