Talk:Talimali Band of Apalachee Indians

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Cori Bardsley, please stop mischaracterizing content from the citations. For example from this article (which was already cited), you wrote:

"Louisiana Senator Louie Bernard, who has been one of the main supporters of the tribe's fight for recognition, has gone on record to suggest that the large number of tribes that were denied recognition in May 2022 were fighting against the state's reluctance to expand resources and funding to Indigenous communities.

His actual quote in the article is:

"“All of us have this lingering thing that we’ve had forever, that anybody that seeks recognition and in this fashion has another motive in mind,” said Sen. Louie Bernard, R-Natchitoches. “And we all know what that is. But I guess I’m just naive enough to believe that some of these tribes really are not interested in that. They are interested solely in having the pride of having been recognized by their state as who they say they are.”"

Then regarding [http://www.legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=1123157 LA SCR9, you wrote:

In 2019, Senator Gerald Long also led a federal resolution process to the Bureau of Indian Affairs to support the federal recognition of the Talimali Band of the Apalachee. In a resolution detailing the tribes history and value to the state, Long states that the undersigned "recognizes the Apalachee Indians of Louisiana (also known as the Talimali Band of the Apalachee Indians of Louisiana) as an Indian tribe of the state. Further, urges and requests appropriate federal officials to take necessary action to effectuate formal federal re-recognition or recognition of the Apalachee Indians of Louisiana" under the basis that it "preserve their cultural heritage, to improve their economic condition, and to assist them in the achievement of their just rights"

LA SCR9 is a Louisiana state concurrent resolution. The resolution died and state resolutions have no influence over any federal agency and that's not how the "federal resolution process works."

You are pushing a point of view that is not reflected in the citation. Please stop misrepresenting what the sources say. Yuchitown (talk) 15:33, 28 February 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]

I've updated the inclusion from Senator Bernard to include his full quote. And thank you for the clarification on LA SCR9. I'll admit I misread the title "INDIAN AFFAIRS" to mean the document was in conversation with the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Cori Bardsley (talk) 16:17, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What is your motivation to edit this article? You are pushing a very strong WP:POV. Before anyone uses a citation, they should actually read and understand what they are citing. Yuchitown (talk) 18:36, 28 February 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]

This was an article recommended by Wikipedia Suggested Edits program. Can I ask what your motivation was to create this article? While it seems like you have a strong interest in editing various pages on Native American topics, it's important to remember that articles are publicly sourced and built. Defensiveness over articles that one creates can often be inappropriate. Cori Bardsley (talk) 08:57, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Editorial comment

I'm moving this comment to the talk page: The topic of federal and state recognition is a controversial one among the estimated 400 unrecognized tribes.^[1]

The 400 number comes from the cited article, but not the opinion, since there isn't a consortium of 400 unrecognized tribes in the US who met and drafted a public statement. Yuchitown (talk) 17:49, 29 June 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]

Your current formatting seems to be inaccurately connecting the 400 total to the linked Wiki article. If you choose to include the 400 total, which does seem to be a perfectly appropriate inclusion, please reformat to make it clear where this estimate comes from. Thank you. Cori Bardsley (talk) 06:02, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That is not the case. I even put the verbatim relevant quotes from the article related to the more than 400 unrecognized tribes in the citation. Seriously, reading these articles in not that difficult. Yuchitown (talk) 15:20, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]

Please calm down. There is no need to become inappropriately defensive. You were simply asked to clarify a total quoted. This is a reasonable request. This page is for the general public to be able to clearly understand the topic and where each data point is sourced. The highest level of clarity should be our main concern as contributors, not defensiveness over pages we happen to create. Cori Bardsley (talk) 13:54, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I do appreciate your work on this page and hope you can also appreciate my efforts to review as a second party. I do not want a few disagreements over quotes and citations to become a disservice to this topic. Cori Bardsley (talk) 13:57, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Hayssen, Sophie (November 24, 2021). "Tribes That Aren't Federally Recognized Face Unique Challenges". Teen Vogue. Retrieved 28 February 2023.

Yuchitown (talk) 17:49, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Hayssen, Sophie (November 24, 2021). "Tribes That Aren't Federally Recognized Face Unique Challenges". Teen Vogue. Retrieved 28 February 2023.

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