Talk:Tale of Two Brothers

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Untitled

Is this is not copyrighted (On the one hand, it is old enough to be in the public domain, on the other hand, I doubt it was originally written in English) would it not be more suited to being in WikiSource, as is it is basically just the original text? J Milburn 14:06, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is basically the original text, updated from Victorian unnecessary lanugae "Thee and thou" "regardest" etc.

Thanks for your help John D. Croft 14:51, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anubis vs. Anpu

I was confused by Anubis being referred to as Anpu. I think it would be easier for someone who doesn't know about Egyptian variations of the word to know who Anubis is. Agree/Disagree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coching (talk • contribs) 04:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, so I changed the Anubis spellings to Anpu, and I noted that Anubis is a variation of the name. I do not have a preference for either name and know nothing about the subject. Someone can change them all to Anubis, but it is confusing to switch back and forth, particularly without mentioning that Anubis is a variation of Anpu, as the article previously failed to do. -- Kjkolb (talk) 04:45, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The dates attributed to Seti II should be checked. As of now (July 14th, 2009) they are listed as 1209 BC to 1205 BC making him only 4 years old at his death. This does not seem compatible with the rest of the article. Under the Seti II entry ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seti_II ) There is no birth date given but he is said to have reigned from 1203 BC to 1197 BC.

Last edited at 02:40, 15 July 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 07:35, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Interpretation

obviously Egyptologists don't usually get a background in STEM but it would be helpful to see if any have analyzed the story as a allegorical treatment of protochemistry/early metallurgy, astrology, or other natural process. Bata's repeated mutilations, deaths, and transformations are obviously not inspired by any literal story and the political interpretation seems farcical, even if they were arguing that he represented a tribal position and not a single historical person. I'm sure the odd bits are generally dealt with through generous applications of handwavium but there may well be a legitimate original meaning. — $Llywelyn II$ 23:58, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ugaritic version

https://www.jstor.org/stable/23788617?read-now=1&refreqid=excelsior%3A6c20b25068e6995b71c1a934d91f6b1e&seq=3#page_scan_tab_contents Thomas Schneider makes the argument that a parallel myth exists in KTU 1.12 (RS 2.[012]), with Ball and Hadad as the two brothers. He also makes the argument that this tale corresponds to the two brothers Amenemese and Siptah, Sons of Seti II. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:581:C300:290:E51B:1C20:6258:97A9 (talk) 04:35, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

english

the two brother 2001:4453:3D0:F100:99F6:1371:8E52:6F33 (talk) 15:20, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

English

a tale of the two brothers 49.149.208.211 (talk) 12:41, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]