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Congratulations! The article about Soke is already in English! Osu!--Sensei 0208 (talk) 10:38, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was move page. Consensus at this time supports a page move to Takayuki Kubota over the target originally proposed. PeterSymonds (talk) 10:02, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Soke Kubota Takayuki → Kubota Takayuki — "Soke" is a title. The name of article must contain only the name of a person. --INSAR (talk) 20:08, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure it is correct! INSAR (talk) 11:49, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

TODO list

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This section should be not in chronological order, but instead at the top of the page under templates. Because it's targets just task list, that will be constantly updating. If you can replace some of the tasks on the lists with templates on the page - I would thank you. But until that it should be there.

  • Add info in bio about USA period
  • Check fact dates (in different sources may different dates)
  • Check people names
  • Check not linked styles of martial arts names
  • Finish filmography
  • Add about Hollywod part
  • Place inline citations
  • Photos
  • Write about nomination in 2010

Yakudza19 (talk) 01:36, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Why do not keep them on different dates? Please explain why did you do that. Also why not keep stub-template? We are still working at this article - it's too far away from being complete.Yakudza19 (talk) 21:14, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dates should not be linked. Please see MOS:UNLINKDATES for more details. Also, the article is certainly not a stub article any more, so there is no need to add a stub template. Please refer to Wikipedia:Stub for more information on the Wikipedia definition of a stub article. It has nothing to do with whether an article is "complete", and few Wikipedia articles are ever complete. --DAJF (talk) 01:57, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I understood - thank you =). Yakudza19 (talk) 10:32, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Magazine article refs

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As I see, every sentence here should be referenced, or it would be deleted in a day =/. I have many different facts from the same article in magazine, but they are on different pages. Should I use many refs and write which page on each, or use one ref on whole article? Yakudza19 (talk) 19:38, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ed Parker's event

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In different sources it has different versions of where and when Soke Kubota's demonstration happened:

  • On 2 August 1964, Kubota was invited by Ed Parker to give a demonstration at Parker's First Annual International Karate Tournament in Long Beach.
  • In 1966 it happend at Ed Parker's International Karate Championships in Long Beach.

Probably there was two different events. Does anyone have additional info about that? Yakudza19 (talk) 23:40, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Names

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I transcripted

  • Japanese names of:
    • Karino
  • Chinese names of:
  • Cai

from source, that was in russian language and not guaranted to be right transcription. If anyone can check their correct spelling in english - I would be gladfull. Yakudza19 (talk) 12:33, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Close paraphrasing

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Here template {{Close paraphrase}} was posted on the page. According to Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing close phrases should be mentioned on the talk page:

On the talk page, cite specific passages alongside the corresponding passage from the source to highlight their similarity; this will provide objective evidence of close paraphrasing. In some cases, it may be necessary to remove the paraphrasing content until it can be repaired, to avoid copyright issues

There was none in an hour, so I removed template {{Close paraphrase}} from the article till they will be mentioned. Yakudza19 (talk) 01:29, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You have reintroduced copyvio material taken from a number of magazines/books. --DAJF (talk) 01:49, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You still didnt "cited specific passages alongside the corresponding page grom the source to highlight their similarity to provide objective evidence of close paraphrasing". I agree that there might be because as every writer here I used some sources to get information and because of constantly rereading it I could get used to author style. So if you wish to help please sight them somehow alongisde the corresponding passage. Yakudza19 (talk) 10:48, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could DAJF explain where was mistake ("close paraphrasing" where???) of Yakudza19? Please mark somehow phrases, as you say "copyvio". Currently I'm working on ru version of an article, and I'm going to continue working on it in en version, and I don't want to be blocked for the same. It is difficult to state some phrases ("... was born on September 20, 1934 in Kumamoto, Japan ...", "...In 1950-1959 Kubota was instructor for U.S. Army, Air Force, and Marines...") in any other way - these are the facts. You must cite. Otherwise it is unjust accusation in "copyvio" and you did it only cause y did, with no reason. Dragon24 (talk)

It's OK, I've removed what appeared to be the most obvious copyright violations. If you need more details, you should consult with Yakudza19, as she was the editor that added the text copied pretty much verbatim from magazine articles. If you don't want to be blocked, then don't copy (or closely paraphrase) text from other sources. It's that simple. It is not the responsibility of other editors to help you cover up copyright violations by rewording text you have added. --DAJF (talk) 00:31, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I see, Yakudza19 worked a lot on this article (and several other linked: International Karate Association, Gosoku Ryu...). He added references, listed ranks, started to list film roles and added books. He added some facts of biography with references on sources. This is important work. You said he copypasted material, but you can't proove it - you just deleted text. The work on this article is continuing (Yakudza19, me and several other people) not only on en-Wiki (ru-Wiki, pl-Wiki, etc). Your accusation (unproved! though you have been asked to cite) caused indefinitely blocking of Yakudza19 and his IP address. Now a person, who knows the materials well (I mean Yakudza19, I know he read a lot of sources) cannot write an article. --Dragon24 (talk) 23:29, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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