Talk:Taiwan Province (disambiguation)

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September 2024 edit dispute

@Revirvlkodlaku: I will assume that you know why the nominal, de jure Taiwan Provinces exist in the first place. In my opinion, having the full names of "Republic of China" and "People's Republic of China" makes this disambiguation more clear by providing a little more context for uninformed readers. Yes, Taiwan and China are the common names for the two countries. But perhaps a reader not as informed as me and you may be confused as to why Taiwan would have a Taiwan Province? Imagine an unfamiliar reader reads your modified sentence "Taiwan Province is a nominal administrative division of Taiwan."

Perhaps you'd prefer the common middle-ground on Wikipedia, Taiwan (Republic of China) or Republic of China (Taiwan). However, why not be even more clear and say that the Republic of China government controls Taiwan?

Also, this will be the second and last thing I will say about your suggestion of me having a "pro-China bias", but I feel that it must be said: It was rather disappointing to see another experienced editor, also a Canadian, immediately jump to labelling me as such, as I've had this happen to me a few times before on Wikipedia. We've never had a prior interaction, so it was quite jarring to be suddenly accused of that in your edit summary. Ironically, I just wrote an article about pro-Kuomintang activities in Vancouver (Kuomintang Building (Vancouver)), which was featured on the front page yesterday. Pretty anti-China (if you mean anti-CCP) and pro-Taiwan to do, in my opinion, but I subscribe to neither because I'm not heavily invested as a Canadian whose family is from Hong Kong. My point is, please be mindful of others and assume good faith; we're Canadians. Yue🌙 03:49, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Yue, firstly, please let me apologize for jumping straight to the assumption of a pro-China bias on your part. I didn't consider the matter carefully, and expecting you to be motivated by what seems like a relatively common project, of claiming Taiwan for China, both here and elsewhere, I went straight for the accusation and was prepared to castigate you further in the consequent edit war. I was clearly mistaken, and I withdraw the accusation.

Secondly, thank you for not continuing the tit-for-tat reverts and starting a discussion instead.

Lastly, I would be happy with a compromise that doesn't present readers with the confusingly similar "Republic of China" and "People's Republic of China". It's not clear to me why a clarification about who controls the island of Taiwan would be necessary, however. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 04:02, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Revirvlkodlaku: I think our opinions are just the complete opposite of each other's: I think ROC / PRC helps readers, you think it confuses readers. As such, I will just leave it at that and let others chime in, if they ever do, as this is a relatively minor dispute over a disambiguation page. Cheers. Yue🌙 06:42, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]