Talk:Tag rugby
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Should be at OZTag, Tag Rugby suggests it's union. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.177.94 (talk) 01:24, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
The mode of play is based on rugby league
[edit]"The mode of play is based on rugby league with many similarities to touch football." A citation is need for this statement. Touch rugby has long been played by members of the RFU independently of rugby league, and tag rugby replaced touch rugby for certain age groups about 10 years ago, what evidence is there that the RFU took the ideas from rugby league? -- PBS (talk) 10:25, 24 June 2013 (UTC) Also the history section of this article does not support it. Is there any eveidence that Rugby league is played in Gibraltar (see Rugby union in Gibraltar), if not then not all tag rugby is derived from league. -- PBS (talk) 10:32, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
- Personally, it feels like someone has made an "A applies" therefore "B follows" in writing the article. It is believed that touch rugby was formed from League, therefore as tag has elements of touch then it too must be based on league. The only major connection to league over union I can see is that of the counting of tags before possession switches side, which is of course also used in American football. I find it difficult that anyone can state that touch was invented by any one person, because wherever you have children, a rugby ball, and a concrete playing field, the game of touch would have been created, independently in places all around the world. As I added to the article; Gibraltor appears to have come up with it first, probably the Forces teams, and there lies a history of union. It would simply be safer to state that it is derived from rugby football and let us all lay claim. FruitMonkey (talk) 11:53, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
- The article was initially written by me and has subsequently been edited by other people. Tag rugby comes from OzTag AFAIK which is a variant of rugby league. American football might also count tags but the number "six" is a bit of a give away. I have no knowledge of "Gibraltar tag" which has been added to the article by somebody else. And no - rugby league has never been played in Gibraltar.GordyB (talk) 17:09, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
- The Gibralter thing comes from me, and is referenced. The book is not retrospective, and it appears to be the earliest printed mention of Tag Rugby. If anyone can beat it, please add a cite. FruitMonkey (talk) 17:26, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
- In which case, there would seem to be two separate origins of tag rugby and thus removing the "based on rugby league" (true of OzTag but presumably not the Gibraltarian version) would seem logical.GordyB (talk) 22:39, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
- The Gibralter thing comes from me, and is referenced. The book is not retrospective, and it appears to be the earliest printed mention of Tag Rugby. If anyone can beat it, please add a cite. FruitMonkey (talk) 17:26, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
- The article was initially written by me and has subsequently been edited by other people. Tag rugby comes from OzTag AFAIK which is a variant of rugby league. American football might also count tags but the number "six" is a bit of a give away. I have no knowledge of "Gibraltar tag" which has been added to the article by somebody else. And no - rugby league has never been played in Gibraltar.GordyB (talk) 17:09, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
OzTag is non-contact league, six tackles, play the balls, defence back back 7, markers, turnovers, taps etc. Are they all playing these rules, but calling themselves rugby, or is there some other rugby-style thing that happens when a tag occurs?
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How many play Oztag in Oz? A conflict.
[edit]In the Oztag subsection to the Variations section its 200000, while in the Australia subsection to the Worldwide section it’s 80000. Neither claim is supported by a reference, but first up it would be good to have some consistency. Boscaswell talk 01:08, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
This article says "rugby" throughout, but they all seem to be league variants. Appears misleading.
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