Talk:Tafhim-ul-Quran
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Isn't this article also referring to the same book The_Meaning_of_the_Qur'an NMKuttiady 15:52, 22 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nabeelmoidu (talk • contribs)
Merger proposal
[edit]An editor has already proposed to merge The Meaning of the Qur'an into Tafhim-ul-Quran. The proposal is more than 2 years old an no one has yet done anything. I was about to merge the article myself but then thought that I should first "Discuss" about it here. It is very apparent that both the articles are about the same book. But it is possible that the article The Meaning of the Qur'an is about the translation of Tafhim-ul-Quran in English. If that is the case, should the articles still be merged. And if they should be merged, which article should be treated as the source and which one should be the destination. I believe that the final article should have the name Tafhim-ul-Quran as this was the original name of the book. The Meaning of the Qur'an is just a translation. --Wahj-asSaif (talk) 00:07, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- They should totally be merged, but I think we should retain the English name per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English). MezzoMezzo (talk) 07:15, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
- The naming conventions say that the article should have an English name instead of the foreign (native) name if the English name is more common in English works. In our situation this is not the case, how many times have you heard or read "The Meaning of the Qur'an" as referring to "Tafhim-ul-Quran". "The Meaning of the Qur'an" is a name for some other English books like The Meaning of the Holy Qur'an by Marmaduke William Pickthall, or The Meaning and Explanation of the Glorious Qur'an by Muhammad Saed Abdul-Rahman. Whereas, no where do you see a book named The Meaning of the Qur'an by Maududi. Tafhim-ul-Quran has been translated into English and the name of the translation is Towards Understanding the Qur'an translated by Zafar Ishaq Ansari. --Wahj-asSaif (talk) 22:25, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
- If that's the case, then shouldn't the final destination for this article be Towards Understanding the Qur'an? MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:51, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- There is a separate article on Wikipedia with the name Towards Understanding the Qur'an. Are you suggesting we merge all three? --Wahj-asSaif (talk) 00:27, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, to be honest. Ignoring the fact that much of all three articles is improperly sourced and could be cut anyway, I don't see a reason for a separate article for each edition of a book in a different language. Catcher in the Rye has been translated so many times, yet it only has one article. I don't know what the basis is for separate translations of one book having separate articles is, unless we can find reliable sources speaking of them separately to a level which reaches WP:SIGCOV, but I don't think that's the case here. MezzoMezzo (talk) 02:36, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- There is a separate article on Wikipedia with the name Towards Understanding the Qur'an. Are you suggesting we merge all three? --Wahj-asSaif (talk) 00:27, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- If that's the case, then shouldn't the final destination for this article be Towards Understanding the Qur'an? MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:51, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- The naming conventions say that the article should have an English name instead of the foreign (native) name if the English name is more common in English works. In our situation this is not the case, how many times have you heard or read "The Meaning of the Qur'an" as referring to "Tafhim-ul-Quran". "The Meaning of the Qur'an" is a name for some other English books like The Meaning of the Holy Qur'an by Marmaduke William Pickthall, or The Meaning and Explanation of the Glorious Qur'an by Muhammad Saed Abdul-Rahman. Whereas, no where do you see a book named The Meaning of the Qur'an by Maududi. Tafhim-ul-Quran has been translated into English and the name of the translation is Towards Understanding the Qur'an translated by Zafar Ishaq Ansari. --Wahj-asSaif (talk) 22:25, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
So, should we place a merge tag on that article too? --Wahj-asSaif (talk) 19:22, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, it would be a good idea. It's better to collect feedback from more than just the two of us if possible, so perhaps a tag on another article will help generate more discussion. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:01, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
New merger proposal
[edit]Editors had already proposed to merge Tafhim-ul-Quran and The Meaning of the Qur'an because both the articles refer to the same book. Now we have proposed another page Towards Understanding the Qur'an to be merged with these two articles as it is a translation of Tafhim-ul-Qur'an. Please discuss whether all or any of these articles should be merged. And also discuss what should be the name of the destination page.
I believe that The Meaning of the Qur'an and Towards Understanding the Qur'an should be merged into Tafhim-ul-Quran because of the above mentioned reasons. The destination page should have the name Tafhim-ul-Qur'an as it is the most common name. --Wahj-asSaif (talk) 07:44, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Now that it's been about 18 months, I think we can safely say no one objects! I'll merge all three into Tafhim-ul-Quran.—Neil P. Quinn (talk) 15:37, 9 January 2015 (UTC)