Talk:Tabon Man

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Tabon skull "not Negrito"?

@Batongmalake: A follow up to your note in Talk:Ethnic_groups_in_the_Philippines#Tabon_man_was_not_Negrito: The only source here for the statement that the Tabon man is not Negrito is Scott (1984), citing craniometric evidence. Have you come across more recent literature about it? Craniometry always leaves a certain margin of error when assigning skeletal remains to ancient populations, and I have seen quite a number of cases where aDNA-methods have shown that earlier craniometric studies were off the mark. Moderns studies which I have found leave the question open, e.g. Matsumura et al. (2018):

The date for anatomically modern human colonization of MSEA and ISEA is attested by way of assemblages excavated in Tam Pa Ling in Laos, Niah in Malaysia, and Tabon in the Philippines, ranging from 47,000 to 30,000 years BP [91–94]. Of these, the Niah and the Tabon series were excavated from sites now occupied by Austronesian speakers, and in the context of the ADH can be seen as representative of pre-dispersal indigenous populations. However, the poor preservation of such remains limit any attempts to assess their relationship to each other or later series in the region.

Or they remain speculative, e.g. Omoto et al. (2020):

It is tempting to speculate that the Tabon Man may be an ancestor of the Batak people, a negrito group of the island of Palawan.

The idea that the Tabon specimens belonged to a population that is ancestral to the modern-day Negritos is also not at odds with Larena et al. (2021), who date the entry of early Negrito populations at around around 47kya (Note however that Tabon man is not mentioned in Larena et al. (2021), so this is WP:synthesis which we cannot do in article space).

I suggest to remove the final statement about Tabon man not being Negrito, and replace it with the more careful assessment by Matsumura et al. –Austronesier (talk) 11:30, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Insertion re new species moved here for discussion

I've reverted this insertion and moved it here for discussion because the assertion re "new set of specis" appears too bold without more support and the sourcing is too vague.

In the swamps of San Miguel, Hagonoy, Bulacan, there is a specific new set of species related to the Tabon Man. These species are called; Homo Piningsis, Homo Nicoleomelus, Homo Otibmas. These three species are known for eating fried rice with repolyo and corn beef. (2022) (Circa: Reference; Hagonoy Municipal & Cultural Office HMCO).

Some googling leads me to suspect that the Homo Piningsis name there might be associated with Peking Man; I didn't find any mention close to the other two names. See also e.g., [1][[2][3][4][5], etc. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:46, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Tabon man Eden Tabig (talk) 12:10, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]