Talk:Systematic Chaos

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Constant Motion was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 10 September 2009 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Systematic Chaos. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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Canadian Chart Information

Systematic Chaos debuted at #15 on the Canadian charts. http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Artists/R/Rihanna/2007/06/13/4257509-ca.html If someone could add that in the proper format, that would be great. 142.177.57.122 (talk) 19:48, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thank you! black ngold29 05:44, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Dark Eternal Night

The Dark Eternal Night lyrics is based on a H. P. Lovecraft prose poem Nyarlathotep. http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/nyarlathotep.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toolt (talk • contribs) 12:07, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see no reference to Dream Theater on that page. There needs to be a direct reference to the song or it is WP:OR. black ngold29 14:07, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it is enough, to read the poem, and decide. There is a reference at Nyarlathotep's wiki page (Popular culture \ Music). But I don' t know if that is enough. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyarlathotep --Toolt (talk) 14:58, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't cited on the Nyarlathotep article either, so it's WP:OR there too. black ngold29 16:08, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, this is my first article editing and discussion, but I understant the problem now. Although I see a solution. "Some claim that it is adapted from Lovecraft's writing Nyarlathotep." It's a fact and I cite it: http://sithoughts.mu.nu/archives/2007_07.html http://www.templeofdagon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=22075 http://faq.dtnorway.com/question/1098 So it would be up to the reader to decide. --Toolt (talk) 08:13, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The "Twelve Promises" spoken section in "Repentance"

Anyone know who it is speaking during this section? I could only think of Portnoy, or one of the other band members (I guess the only other possibility would be Petrucci or LaBrie, or else it might make a mention of Rudess or Myung contributing "vocals" to the album) because there's no other guests credited for it besides the ones who do the spoken bits before it, and if it were one of them, there would be a mention of it. If it is Petrucci or LaBrie, or even maybe Portnoy, there's definitely some effects there to make his voice sound deeper, cause there's no way that's really it.

--Rock Soldier (talk) 22:47, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, there's a few other things during the guest section. I hear a few additional lines of monologue, like during Mikael Åkerfeldt's one, there's a bunch of other voices that come in in the background during certain points...I can pick out what two of them say ("I wish I could change it" and "It's time to quit again"), but the rest are a little harder to tell. The first sounds like Chris Jericho, and the second David Ellefson, and there's also one that I can't pick out the words of before that, but sounds like the voice of either Jon Anderson or Steve Hogarth...but these are just guesses. Also, it's written that at the end of Neal Morse's monologue, he says "Forgive me...I'm sorry", but I don't hear that anywhere. Instead, at the end of the section, I hear a completely different voice saying "Will you forgive me?"

Any ideas as to who any of these are, and what some of them are saying?

--Rock Soldier (talk) 23:38, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vinyl mispressings

It seems that all or at least several of the American pressings of the album from 2008 are mispressings, causing “Ministry of Lost Souls” to appear both on side C and D, and “In the Presence of Enemies Pt. II” to be completely absent from the album.

This is discussed in several forums, for example here: http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.aspx?high=&m=2484007&mpage=1#2484007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.215.120.154 (talk) 14:40, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

More reviews = uncorfirmed!

Here is another review of Systematic Chaos from MetalReview (http://metalreview.com/reviews/3572/dream-theater-systematic-chaos). Great rating, but why isn't it confirmed? I found it, when i checked the review scores on "Octavarium" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavarium_(album). It says "Professional ratings", then the other Dream Theater reviews from MetalReview must be professional as well, right?

Write that down! Christhedrummer95 (talk) 13:40, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Music video 'Forsaken'

I have changed the information concerning the music video of 'Forsaken' after consulting a friend on the video. The article states it's anime, however neither the drawing style nor the techniques used are anime. Therefore, I have changed the word 'anime' into 'animation'. Feel free to correct me, but I wouldn't classify this as anime. Supertanno (talk) 10:29, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]