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Romansh in the U.S.

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Does anyone on here know of Romansh-speaking Swiss Americans? Gringo300 21:01, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Caviezel is a Romansh-Swiss-American. At least his name is of Romansh origin. But they are probably just a few Romans Americans. 92.105.88.38 (talk) 14:12, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review discussion

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Please see the deletion review discussion here. Badagnani 18:37, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

pictures

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having more pictures is nice; having more pictures spread across the top of the page is not. They need to be grouped in a rectangle on the right top of page as found in all other such articles. Please fix Hmains (talk) 04:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

just tried to make it look as much of a rectangle as possible. now, especially in firefox, it doesnt.. it dont know how mine in IE looked before though.
it is a rectangle right now. No reason to further change it Hmains (talk) 05:19, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
not in opera and firefox.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cageron (talk • contribs) 07:48, 27 June 2009
I certainly don't know whether IE or what is standard for WP. I just make things match each other. I suppose this means all such articles have the same problem with their images in a rectangle in the upper right of the article. Since I cannot see the problem, maybe you should take it up with Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Hmains (talk) 00:23, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah your right, it's the same for all other articles like that. So i guess it doesn't make much sense to change them since you'd have to do it for each entry. Firefox and IE have more or less the same spread anyway, so just ignore what i wrote. Cageron (talk) 05:00, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Einstein

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Albert Einstein perhaps isn't the best example here. Yes, he was a Swiss citizen when he was naturalized in the US in 1940. But he had also been naturalized in Switzerland. Einstein is a native of Ulm, Germany, and as such should probably be counted as "German American" if the question is "ancestry", not "passport at the time of naturalization". --dab (𒁳) 11:50, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. As for Swiss Americans being mistaken for German/French/Italian Americans, I know it happened to my great-uncle, who was born in Canton Bern in the early 1880s and immigrated to America with his parents when he was a young child: he got a lot of harassment from people during WWI for being German and was constantly having to explain that he wasn't German, he was Swiss. +Angr 12:11, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I agree too, Einstein wan not Swiss, he was German-born. -- 91.37.233.91 (talk) 09:20, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
you mean, "not Swiss-born". He was, of course, Swiss. --dab (𒁳) 14:09, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
He was, of course, a Swiss citizen. Whether that makes him Swiss isn't as clear. Do the Swiss count as an ethnicity? +Angr 14:18, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ancestry

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The Hoovers, Eisenhower, Lucas and Co are a bit far-fetched. And Einstein was not Swiss.

Better examples would be - Louis Chevrolet - Steve Ballmer - Chesley Sullenberger —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.147.27.168 (talk) 08:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And how can an article about Swiss Americans not mention the Amish? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.147.27.168 (talk) 08:13, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Swiss is not an ethnicity

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As someone who is 1/4 Swiss German (my paternal grandfather) I know that Swiss is not an ethnicity. It is a nationality. They are no more a separate ethnicity from Germans and Austrians than Sicilians are from Neapolitans. Germans, Austrians, and Swiss Germans are all ethnically German. Same ethnicity. Just because theydo not all live in the same country has NO EFFECT on their ethnicity. You can be a Swiss national, but you cannot be ethnically Swiss. I am 1/4 ethnically German. Most of them came from Switzerland (some from Prussia and Germany). Since it's so complicated, when asked I say I am 1/4 German from Switzerland Prussia and Germany. Chevonicus (talk) 14:03, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm 1/4 Swiss too (my maternal grandfather), but saying whether I'm Swiss German or Swiss French or what is too complicated.. My great-grandparents were Swiss German speakers, but they lived in the French-speaking part of Switzerland, and my great-grandfather's ancestors in the male line were Huguenots from France who germanized their French surname and (presumably) intermarried with Swiss Germans. So was my grandfather Swiss German, or Swiss French, or both, or neither, or what? Meh, he was just Swiss(-American). Angr (talk) 20:15, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Good point, but Swiss is not an ethnicity. Neither is Belgian (Dutch or French). And for me it is unambiguous. My Swiss ancestors were anabaptists. They all were from western germany or Switzerland. They all had German names. It's pretty obvious they were ethnically German. The same way Austrians are ethnically German. Chevonicus (talk) 20:04, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
But ethnicity is also a matter of self-identification. Until WWII, Austrians identified as Germans, but today they mostly don't. The same is probably true of German-speaking Swiss. And anyway, this article doesn't claim that Swiss is an ethnicity. Angr (talk) 20:56, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Austrians are still ethnically German. Ethnicity is about genetic and linguistic classification, not self identification. I am 25% ethnically German. They were from Switzerland and Germany and Prussia. Am I ethnically Swiss or Prussian? No, those are nationalities, not ethnicities. I'm proud to be ethnically German and I'm proud to be descended from Swiss nationals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chevonicus (talk • contribs) 14:20, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's not the definition used at Ethnic group, which says, "Ethnicity or ethnic group is a socially defined category based on common culture or nationality. Ethnicity can, but does not have to, include common ancestry, appearance, cuisine, dressing style, heritage, history, language or dialect, religion, symbols, traditions, or other cultural factor." Anyway, "ethnicity" is a fairly loaded term that we should use with care; it isn't really necessary in this article at all. Angr (talk) 17:55, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Meryl Streep and Dwight D. Eisenhower

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seem to be both German-Americans and Swiss-Americans, see here and here. --Kantischüler (talk) 20:57, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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