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Men's & Women's Events - defects in table

Looks like someone "done goofed" when making the tables for the men's & women's events -- the column for 2012 actually has the tally that belongs in the "years" column. I'm about to get on a plane (17 hour flight) so unfortunately I don't have time to fix the markup. Any good-hearted volunteers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.90.137.17 (talk) 17:45, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

hello 124.169.122.224 (talk) 06:16, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Start of Race Electronic Tone

While the Olympic running races continue to use a traditional starter's pistol (shooting non-bullet cartridges or by means of an electronic device making a gun sound), swimming has converted to an electronic tone note. Can anyone explain this change or describe any advantages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.97.65.236 (talk) 00:53, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

1896

The 1896 events have full results on the main Swimming at the 1896 Summer Olympics page. I'll eventually break them off, but I'm finishing up my work on 1900 at the moment, so it may be a while. <hintmode>That is, unless someone beats me to it.</hintmode> -- Jonel | Speak 17:42, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Plunge for Distance

The event "Plunge for Distance" at the 1904 Olympics is classified in the IOC database as a diving event, not a swimming event. This seems reasonable to me -- also, it is mentioned in the article Diving at the 1904 Summer Olympics. I have therefore removed it from the Men's Events table here, and updated the 1904 total accordingly. OMHalck 22:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A few notes....

1. I've added notations on Olympic records that are also current world records. I've used the plus sign (+) mainly to avoid confusion since in the world records in swimming article, the asterisk (*) is used to indicate that record has not yet been updated on the FINA website (something that is quite irrelevant here). I don't think the maintenance added by this addition will be great.

2. I've also removed the wikilinks for the progression of records. Those links went to the progression of world record articles, and weren't for progression of Olympic records. The IOC has PDF's available at its website of Olympic record progressions, so if someone is bored, they can whip articles up based on those.

3. In a few locations, it's noted that the records were achieved in semifinals. These are the same notations from the world records article, so I'm going to dig through results to see if there are a few more. (later note: I've checked all of the records and added appropriate notations. 2004 & 2000 results are at omegatiming.com; earlier results can be found on the USA Swimming website) –Pakman044 19:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nations table...errors

1. New Zealand is recorded as having competitors at the 1896 and 1900 Games. No New Zealanders competed at any Games before 1908 in any sport. 2. Australia is noted as not being present in 1980. They were, and in fact won 2 Gold medals. DerbyCountyinNZ 05:56, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1. I've added notations on Olympic records that are also current world records. I've used the plus sign (+) mainly to avoid confusion since in the world records in swimming article, the asterisk (*) is used to indicate that record has not yet been updated on the FINA website (something that is quite irrelevant here). I don't think the maintenance added by this addition will be great.

2. I've also removed the wikilinks for the progression of records. Those links went to the progression of world record articles, and weren't for progression of Olympic records. The IOC has PDF's available at its website of Olympic record progressions, so if someone is bored, they can whip articles up based on those.

3. In a few locations, it's noted that the records were achieved in semifinals. These are the same notations from the world records article, so I'm going to dig through results to see if there are a few more. (later note: I've checked all of the records and added appropriate notations. 2004 & 2000 results are at omegatiming.com; earlier results can be found on the USA Swimming website) –Pakman044 19:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nations table: another error

Hungary participated in the Soviet-led boycott of the 1984 Summer Olympics, so Hungarian swimmers were not present in Los Angeles.

To be honest, I question the utility of the nations table on this particular article. As with athletics, the list of participating nations is an almost complete subset of the list of nations of the Games as a whole. The current list is woefully incomplete, but if completed, it would have ~200 rows × 26 columns = ~5000 table cells! Do we really need that kind of all-time summary on this list? In my opinion, the list of participating nations on these "Sport at the Olympics" pages is most effective for the team sports, where only 8–12 teams qualify for the tournament each Games, for example. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 16:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. What is the point of this nations table? Does it really add that much interesting information to this page? I say we get rid of it. 213.214.57.217 (talk) 13:14, 15 August 2008 (UTC)Hicham Vanborm[reply]

I agree. Let's get rid of it. It is pointless and incomplete. 128.122.91.47 (talk) 22:53, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal (Olympic records section)

Both pages duplicate the same information. I propose one of the following:

Delete List of Olympic records in swimming and create redirect to Swimming at the Summer Olympics#Olympic records
Remove section Swimming at the Summer Olympics#Olympic records, replacing with {{main|List of Olympic records in swimming}} or similar.
- In this case, List of Olympic records in swimming should be renamed Olympic Games records in swimming to match other records in swimming pages (see Category:Swimming records)

Whichever option, references for all results should to be found. Yboy83 (talk) 10:22, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Nations section

This section is pointless and uninteresting. If there are no objections, it will be deleted. 128.122.91.47 (talk) 22:59, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See (and comment at) Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Olympics#Nations tables in some Olympic sport articles. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 23:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am not even sure what this table is about. There is no explanation even within the section as to what this section pertains to. What does intend to show?? Does it show the number of participants from a particular nation? But it doesn't make sense as it would indicate that there is no swimmer from Australia since 1928? I think it should at least explain what this table is about. Or it should be deleted. Showmebeef (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:43, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion

If I go to the official Olympics [medal database] and search for (Swimming, USA, Gold) I get about 521 results which all seem to check out. In fact, most of the countries on this table are showing about double the medals listed. Either I'm doing something wrong or the table in this article is way off. I'm afraid the source provided may be a list of medalists, not medals, and is therefore not counting those who have received multiple medals. Please let me know if I'm crazy. Scoundr3l (talk) 09:05, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

One thing that may be affecting your results is that relay medals would show up as multiple entries in the IOC database, as each member of the relay team would have an entry. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 11:31, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Canada's two rankings

Why is Canada ranked both 13th & 14th in the medal table? 99.27.42.234 (talk) 06:58, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This was done by a vandal and has been reverted, thanks for noticing. Gap9551 (talk) 18:48, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Meter" instead of "metre"

Shouldn't we use "meter" as the article is written in American English?

B5429671 (talk) 13:30, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2024 medals

@BCL234: you have added 35 gold, 36 silver, 33 bronze in long course and 38 gold, 38 silver, 35 bronze medals in total. Can't be correct. Should be 35/36/34 and 37/38/36 Pelmeen10 (talk) 21:50, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After comparing old version of this article and 2024 swimming table for overall medals for ~first 7 nations. What I would have changed USA: -1silver, +1bronze; AUS: -1bronze; HUN -1gold, -1silver; GBR: -2silver, -1broze etc Pelmeen10 (talk) 22:13, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]