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"The books incorporate traditional British mythology (Arthurian and folkloric elements) with original material (e.g.the Old Ones)."

The Old Ones redirects to this page - either someone needs to create a new page or remove the link.
— 21:00, 6 September 2005‎ 65.26.92.4

2012-05-15 Old Ones now redirects to Lovecraft and The Old Ones to the general article Old One. --P64 (talk) 13:58, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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What nonsense. The same user claims that cooper is a pseudonym, and is actually a man named Jared Detsikas. An explanation, perhaps?
— 21:40, 2 February 2006‎ 216.187.106.148

Whatahuh?

I can't understand the following sentence: "Cooper lived in Fairfield, Connecticut with her husband, Canadian-American actor and author Hume Cronyn, the widower of the late Jessica Tandy and father of two children, to whom she was married from July of 1996 until his death at home from prostate cancer at the age of 91 in June 2003." There are too many clauses, and for this reason too much ambiguity. To whom was Cronyn married until 1996, Cooper or Tandy, and with which woman did he have the children? Can someone straighten this out?-Colin Kimbrell 22:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, try the new version; should be much clearer (Anonymous, 23 March 2006)

Are there children who need restoration? ;-)

2012, continued below (#Family) --P64 (talk) 18:08, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First marriage

Just for completeness, what happened to end her first marriage (to the MIT professor).. widowhood or divorce? Zargulon 16:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2012-05-15

Not widhowhood I don't think - MIT's newspaper, the Tech, shows the death of Emiritus Professor Grant in 2004 due to alzheimers - I updated the info box on the right with this: http://tech.mit.edu/V124/N26/26_grant_obit.26n.html - wasn't sure if I should add this to references though, or how to - feel free to do so. He also apparently has 4 children, but I have no idea if they were with Cooper or someone else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.177.80.67 (talk • contribs) 07:51, 15 May 2012

2012, continued below (#Family) -P64

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I'm not any good at more than plain-text editing of Wikipedia, but in case anyone's interested in putting up an image, there are one or two available at this site: http://www.thelostland.com/biography.htm. I suspect the site's owner probably wouldn't object as long as she's given credit, or as long as they're open source.

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Family

continuing six-year old sections #Whatahuh? and #First marriage

The paragraph covering {emigration, first marriage, full-time writer} desperately needs expansion. Presumably it should say that she married Grant and they started a family. Ideally it should relate raising children (how many?) to becoming a full-time writer. For example if there were twins born 1964, she may become a "full-time" writer when they entered school, or "full-day" school. (Compare Anne McCaffrey.) --P64 (talk) 18:08, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to someone above for the reference Professor Grant obituary, MIT 2004. (But spouse= dates are marriage spans, not lifespans. See {{infobox writer}}.) --P64 (talk) 13:58, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What is current?

For one, the Edwards Award is current, for it has been announced but not presented! Along with revision to cover that lifetime award, I have moved the 2007 film adaptation and her service as a Board member to the end of "Biography", just before the closing, "She currently lives in Marshfield, Massachusetts.[7]"

It isn't clear what is current when, partly because there is no date for the McElderry publication but also because this article is unclear re both the scope of that source as a reference (eg, her service on the Board?) and its use of temporally bound words like "current". --P64 (talk) 18:08, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See template {{when?}} whose purpose is to flag prose with vague or missing temporal references.

(I didn't know the template a year ago, haven't re-read the prose on today's visit, see next section about the latter.) --P64 (talk) 02:49, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Works layout

Some {{multicol}} layout must be appropriate, I believe. Today I imposed 2-column arrangement of the main list of children's books, with "Children's novels" at left comprising the previous subsections Dark is Rising and Other novels.

At the same time I added two biographies at the top of the section and one forthcoming novel at the bottom, all using as a source the Library of Congress Online Catalog (current refs 9--11). The two biographies and one play naturally have long entries that enjoy horizontal space, as I have provided.

Perhaps another editor sees a layout that works, or I may see it another day.

Good night. --P64 (talk) 02:49, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I did not search LCCatalog for works by Cooper, only the beginning/end of the list when sorted chronologically. Of course there may be other works, even a string of overlooked biographies during the 40 years between Priestley and Langstaff.

Probably we should now try to be complete --as the section title Works (rather than Selected works) implies. --P64 (talk) 02:53, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Now we are complete with reference to her website, which may be complete for fiction. She wrote as a journalist, and wrote material for the Revels that was performed (or not) but not published. Except as journalist I don't know whether she wrote articles that were published but not collected in Dreams and Wishes.

The Works layout is now reprehensible for its clutter. I plan to incorporate some of that in the prose biography.

--P64 (talk) 20:23, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

December 2013 speech

"Susan Cooper: libraries are the frontline in the war for the imagination". In a speech given to the Youth Libraries Group, The Dark Is Rising author recalls the events that fired her creative instincts as a child, and the importance of books and libraries in building a rich inner life for children
theguardian.com, Wednesday 11 December 2013 11.34 EST

There is some great information here, including some early biographical. It is primary source, apparently a transcript of the speech. --P64 (talk) 23:53, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

She says that her "little island in an estuary saltmarsh" was once named Cooper's for the cooper who acquired it in 1640. Evidently that is in northern Marshfield, ceded by Scituate in 1788. Basis for inference: 1648: Cooper's Island a marsh island in Scituate; Scituate history; Marshfield at Google Maps. --P64 (talk) 17:47, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This is Susan Cooper. The names of my parents are wrong in this piece. My mother was not Ethel Maybelle but Ethel May, and my father not Bob Richard but John Richard.

And I don't live in Cambridge; I live on a saltmarsh island in Marshfield, Mass.

My most recent books are The Shortest Day, with Carson Ellis, and The Word Pirates, with Steven Kellogg, both 2019.

I should be grateful if these changes could be made. Thanks.

Susan Cooper — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salt35marsh (talk • contribs) 18:43, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]