Talk:Surtr

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Infformetion aboute surtur

you give mi infformetion aboute surtur what hi did in the play in the ragnarok

He is prophesized to kill Freyr at Ragnarök. Next question? :)

Modern Icelandic and Old Norse

Anyone mind if we move this article away from the modern Icelandic name to the Old Norse name? - Haukur 22:49, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have no preference for the names right now.

But I have a question. Does anyone know the name of Surt's sword? I forget what it is, it should sound close to Laevatain or such...

You're thinking of "Lævateinn", though I don't know what theory connects that name to Freyr's/Surtr's sword. Maybe something by Viktor Rydberg? Haukur 10:03, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for telling me the name. I think I should apologize for not telling that someone (from the Castlevania Dungeon) relate the sword Laevateinn and Surtr without giving references (though they rarely refer to anything anyway, unless the source is a popular work).

Laevateinn

I've read several books that identify Surtr's sword as Laevateinn. Helene Gruber's book about Norse Mythology (though often criticized as an inaccurate blending of historical research and personal storytelling), and also in another book, by someone named Monroe, I think. Anyway, does anyone know what Laevateinn means? I mean, if it trnslates to something pertinent that might reinforce the idea that the sword was actually called that.

Verkhovensky 20:43, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Laevateinn. I've added an etymology for the name of the weapon there. Surtr is not attested as having any involvement with Laevateinn, but his female companion Sinmara is. Anything further involving Surtr and Laevateinn is theory. :bloodofox: (talk) 11:12, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can provide a slight contribution here and point out that various German and Dutch wikipedia pages say that the sword of Surtr is called "Surtalogi" (translation: Black/Dark/Dusky-Flame/Blaze). 83.189.184.228 (talk) 16:23, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pagans MC

It is true about the Pagans MC emblem. I have seen a picture of it and I can put a link to it. The picture. Of course it can't be used as a source, though. Speaking of sources, why are those two sources that I supplied not reliable according to wikipedia. BT^C 20:54, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It may be true. The problem is references. Wikis are not reliable sources—ideally they are collections of references. What you need is either the Pagans MC stating it somewhere officially that the image is, indeed, Surtr or a reputable resource that does (like something published for example). :bloodofox: (talk) 18:43, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So, you're saying that anything ending in "-pedia" is not a reliable source? Okay, then. BT^C 22:47, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm saying a wiki is in itself not a reliable source. If the information on the wiki provides a source, check that source. If the source is solid, then we can reference the source, not the wiki. :bloodofox: (talk) 03:09, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll keep that in mind next time I'm searching around for sources. Thank you. BT^C 03:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. :bloodofox: (talk) 04:38, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(Etymological) Theories (Section)

The modern etymology of the English word "Black" being associated to 'bright' & 'shining' rather than the common Indo-European root for black in the modern English being "Swarthy", because 'black' meant 'burnt to cinders, singed, scathed', and came to mean dark color from a bright firey shiny term. Perhaps the same Indo-European change of the "Swarthy/Svart" root had the same connotation: when considering the slavic & baltic deities such as Svarog (Svarožič & Svetovid, though the etymology of the latter is different, by-names have the same association). It makes me think of a Surtr connection to names like Svarog meaning 'bright' becoming the name for 'black' & 'dark'... 71.34.67.135 (talk) 06:22, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please read Wikipedia's policy on original research: Wikipedia:No original research. :bloodofox: (talk) 07:08, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Surtur Rising

That is the title of Amon Amarth's upcoming album. Amon Amarth as a band clearly meets the notability guidelines of wikipedia. However, should the fact that this is the name of their upcoming album be featured on this page or not? I would like some extra opinions on this before deciding whether to keep it or remove it. For now, though, I'll edit what exists about the album. It seems like it wouldn't be worth mentioning here, but I don't think I should determine that alone. Oh, and this album's title can be sourced. Backtable _{Speak to me}^{concerning my deeds.} 04:33, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In what way is this relevant?

Mallory, Stephen L. (2007). Understanding Organized Crime, listed in the Further reading section.

Deleted. :bloodofox: (talk) 01:42, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a misspelling in the Norse poem Surtr appears to be spelled Sutr?

Is there a misspelling in the Norse poem Surtr appears to be spelled Sutr? - Looks like original research was used.

Don't go there. Wikipedia has a whole separate set of rules for Norse spellings that correlates with nothing else!Alpharts Tod (talk) 19:12, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Surtr's origin

Surtr's origin, from what I know, was one of the giants that came out of Ymir, and he "fell" into Muspell's fires, and was stuck there until the event's of Ragnarök.I am not sure about this but i think i'm right. 2A02:2F04:C33:9500:11F7:2293:C7B6:AFC7 (talk) 09:30, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]